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Saturday, April 14, 2012

Open Thread on Trayvon, Zimmerman, Derbyshire, Weissberg, ...

Here's an older article by self-righteous black pundit Leonard Pitts spouting the jewish narrative about "White privilege". Surreal, especially in light of John Derbyshire's subsequent crucifixion.

Commentary: Race and privilege must be considered in Trayvon Martin's death:
The long reason begins with an understanding that the word in question — race — is a term both meaningful and yet, profoundly meaningless. It is meaningful in the sense that it provides a tool for tribalism and a means by which to organize our biases, fears, observations, social challenges and sundry cultural products. It is meaningless in the sense that, well . . . it has no meaning, that there exists no definition of “black” or “white” that carries any degree of scientific precision.

We are taught to believe the opposite, that “black” and “white” are self-evident and immutable. But I invite you to look up Walter White, the blond, blue-eyed “Negro” who once led the NAACP, or Gregory Howard Williams, the university president who didn’t even know he was black until he was 10 years old. Dig up the old Jet magazine story about a woman who gave birth to twins — one “black,” one “white.” And then think again. Race is a fraud, a cruel and stupid fraud.

The people who came here from Europe did not automatically consider themselves “white.” They identified as Irish, Hungarian, Italian, Jewish, Armenian. As David R. Roediger observes in his book, Working Toward Whiteness: How America’s Immigrants Became White, they were emphatically taught that “white” was the identity that conferred status and privilege and that it was defined by distance from, and antipathy toward, black. They were advised to avoid being friendly with blacks or else put their whiteness at risk.

Nor did Africans kidnapped into slavery think of themselves as “black.” They were Mandinkan, Fulani, Mende, Songhay, Wolof. “Black” was something imposed upon them as justification for slavery and other means of exploitation. As one historian puts it: Africans did not become slaves because they were black. They became black because they were enslaved.

Well into the 20th century, America recognized dozens of “races.” In that America, people we now regard as white — the Irishman, Conan O’Brien; the Armenian, Andre Agassi; the Jew, Jerry Seinfeld — could not have taken for granted that they would be seen that way. People like this had to become white, had to earn whiteness, a feat African Americans have found impossible to duplicate, no matter how many harsh chemicals they use on their hair and skin.

White, then, is not simply color, but privilege — not necessarily in the sense of wealth, but rather in the sense of having one’s personhood and individuality respected, a privilege so basic I doubt it registers with many whites as privilege at all. We’re talking about the privilege of being seen, of having your worth presumed, of receiving the benefit of the doubt and some human compassion, of being treated as if you matter.

Consider that, then consider the fair-skinned Hispanic man, George Zimmerman, who evidently stalked and killed an unarmed kid he wrongly thought was up to no good, yet was not arrested, nor even initially investigated. He said it was self-defense. Police took him at his word and sent him on his way.

Folks, that’s not just white. It’s blinding.

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Blogger Franklin Ryckaert said...

This article by Leonard Pitts contains the typical "race is a social construct" argument with all its falsehoods and contradictions.

1) "Race does not exist because sometimes mixed-blood individuals are hardly recognizable as such".

In order to have mixed-bloods you first need pure races to mix with. And yes, those who are only slightly mixed are often hardly recognizable as such, which is entirely predictable.

2) "Many immigrant groups in the US didn't identify as belonging to the white race but as belonging to their ethnic groups, such as English, Irish etc. Only later on the term "white" was used, which shows that it is a "social construct".

One becomes conscious of a greater identity only in the context of a CONTRAST of greater identities. If a group of extraterrestial aliens would immigrate into our earth then all human beings would become conscious of their identity as human beings, but that doesn't mean that humanity is a "social construct".

3) "Race doesn't exist because white ethnic groups could earn admission into it but Blacks couldn't".

Perhaps that has something to do with REAL biological differences!

4) "Being White is a privilege".

Yes, every identity group confers "privileges" to anyone who shares that identity, quite naturally so. That is the reason that identity group exists for in the first place. In Japan, being Japanese confers automatically certain "privileges" that non-Japanese don't have. It's the same all over the world.

5) I don't think Mr. Pitt will be opposed to Affirmative Action on the grounds that : 1) It confers "privileges" based on race, 2) Race doesn't really exist.

6) As for Pitts' whining about the shooting of a black thuggish "youth" out of self-defense, in the light of the overwhelming black-on-white crime (virtually a race war) , I would say : "Cry me a river".

4/15/2012 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Mary said...

Someone who I feel deserves a big slap on the back (or a hug :)) is the great Keith Alexander of 'The Political Cesspool' radio show. I had the pleasure of shaking Keith's hand and had the opportunity to thank him for his courageous work in 'kickin butt and takin names' (particularly when it comes to jews)at Amren.

Keith lays it on the line re: Robert Weissberg's two-faced performance when he threw James Edward's under the bus after just having shared a stage with the man at Amren.

Go Keith go!

First hour of show can be heard here:

(link doesn't work well in Google Chrome--try firefox or explorer instead.)

4/15/2012 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Stuka said...

There's a discussion here:

on the Orthosphere blog about jewish influence.

Notice how the nefarious 'Daybreaker' pops up to run his usual game of subterfuge via oblique comment bombing.

Pat Hannagn and Murray seem to be the lone voices of sanity.

4/15/2012 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Robert in Arabia said...

.... [R]ecently: it occurred to me that America, notwithstanding its conservative element which had always stood in the way of the kind of outright leftism that runs Europe, might become more leftist and more tyrannical than Europe. We see the outline of the new America in the Zimmerman affair, with the entire country hating and lusting to destroy and adopting massive transparent lies about an individual because he is a “white racist.” I’m not predicting that, but I think that America is now capable of doing anything. - Laurence Auster

4/16/2012 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trayvon Martin; a public relations campaign.

"A pivotal, if little-known, figure in the Martin story’s development was Ryan Julison, an Orlando public relations executive who began working with the Martin family at the behest of its attorneys, Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson,” says The Post.


Original article was posted in the 'style' section of the Washington Post.

4/16/2012 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Porter said...

Regarding that thread at the Orthosphere...

For all the florid discourse and pious civility, the essence of Kristor's position is that he hates envenomation but finds no fault in vipers. That's his contradiction...if he can hold it.

4/16/2012 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

"the essence of Kristor's position is that he hates envenomation but finds no fault in vipers"

Very well put, as usual (though it doesn't quite match your recent comment at Mangan's: "The one rule of Kosher Club is you do not talk about Kosher Club.")

Kristor is such a tiresome gasbag. Here he is in 2008, on Auster's site: "[My black friend] was happy about the election. And this is what he said: “I am a black man. And today, I feel I have been accepted, by America, in just the same way I was always totally accepted at church when I was a little boy. I cannot tell you how great a relief this is; I cannot tell you how much better I feel.” This made me deeply happy. If the election of Obama has the effect of making black people of good will feel as though they are at last accepted by the white majority culture as legitimate Americans, this can only bode well for blacks, and for America. If the election of a black man as the President of this Nation can heal at last the wound of slavery, then so be it. If this is the price of getting these valuable men and women out from under the burthen of their heritage, that has loomed for them so amazing heavy, then by God it is a price worth paying, to make them patriots, and brothers in arms."

4/16/2012 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rise of the Austerites?

4/16/2012 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Murray does make a lot of sense in that Orthosphere thread. He argues the point well.

Thanks for the tip, just realised Kristor actually replied to me. I'm so used to being ignored, not having my comments go through, being typecast as a raving madman (well, I suppose I have contributed there a tad) etc that I don't always follow up anymore. Not that it would make any difference anyway.

4/17/2012 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Porter said...


That was painful. It appears Kristor has sacrificed his powers of clairvoyance in tribute to prostration.

These valuable men and women...(will become)...patriots and brothers in arms. Umm, no. Not so much, in either sense.

And also, they are at last accepted by the white majority culture as legitimate Americans. Hardly. Even if blacks were not so wildly disposed toward indolence, entitlement, obtuseness, and violence, they would not be Americans to us any more than would seven generations of whites in Tokyo be Japanese to them. Of course none of this penetrates the mental carapace of such cosmic thinkers who can't discern the difference between nation and country.

4/17/2012 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Svigor said...

Orthosphere: Jesus, what the hell is that crap? I couldn't even read more than a few paragraphs of that nonsense.

Whining about Jews and Blacks is fighting fire with fire. Fighting fire with fire (and using whatever else it takes to win) is what winners do.

People like Kristor make me want to punch them in the face, they're so full of shit. Jews and Blacks, the world heavyweight champions of whining and resentment? Hey, no problem there. Whites fighting back? Biiiiig Problem.

I have no time for liars.

4/18/2012 03:33:00 PM  
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