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Thursday, February 02, 2012

Anti-White/Pro-Jew Hackers Attack A3P

The announcement left by the attackers at the American Third Position home page (down at the moment, the screenshot is from Google's cache) begins:
Jamie Kelso and American Third Position Hacked and Destroyed; Private Emails Expose Blatant Racism and Ties to Ron Paul

#ANONYMOUS #ANTIFASCIST #OPBLITZKRIEG #OCCUPYWALLSTREET #ANTISEC

DISCUSS ON PIRATEPAD OR IRC.ANONOPS.LI #OPBLITZKRIEG

Fellow anons: we are pleased to bring you the dismantling of a major US-based white supremacist network known as the "American Third Position"(A3P). These racist losers have chapters across the US, operate several white power websites, forums and online stores, and are even running a candidate in the 2012 elections. Although they try hard to maintain a professional public image to camouflage their vile racism, we're now airing all their dirty laundry all over the internet. Contained in this major dump are several thousand private forum messages, personal emails, internal organization notes, names, phone numbers, home addresses and other information on all of their members and supporters. It’s time for these cowardly suit and tie white supremacists to sleep with one eye open. Scared much?

In addition to finding the usual racist rants and interactions with other white power groups, we also found a disturbingly high amount of members who are also involved in campaigning for Ron Paul. According to these messages, Ron Paul has regularly met with many A3P members, even engaging in conference calls with their board of directors. Ron Paul's racist politics and affiliations are already well known, being viciously anti-immigrant, anti-abortion and against gay marriage -- not to mention having authored the racist "Ron Paul Papers" and receiving financial support from other white power groups (pictured with Don Black from stormfront.org). Hard to believe Ron Paul draws some support from the left and the occupation movements, especially now that it is confirmed Ron Paul hangs out with straight up racist hate groups.

We put extra effort in ruining the life of A3P webmaster Jamie Kelso. On top of being on the board of directors of A3P, former $cientologist, and high ranking Ron Paul organizer, he also is the account owner of german nazi forums and store nsl-forum.org, rhs-versand.com. We went ahead and wiped those websites off the internet as well, dumping private messages and order information. Aside from us releasing his information such as his social security number, address, resume and private discussions, we also heard some folks went on a joyride with Kelso's credit card and made some lulzy purchases, including sex toy purchases and making donations to the Anti Defamation League and many others. Oops.

We call upon not only other antifascists but all those opposed to white supremacy to utilize this information and make hell for these white nationalist scumbags. It is essential if we wish to live in a world free from oppression to expose and confront racists at their jobs, their schools, at their homes and in the streets.

No Dialogue! No sympathy! Destroy White Supremacy!

*** DEFACED WEBSITES:
A3P sites:
http://american3rdposition.com
http://www.whitenewsnow.com
http://merlinmiller2012.com
http://virgilgoode2012.com

German Nazi forums and store:
http://www.nsl-forum.com
http://www.rhs-verdand.com

*** DOWNLOAD FROM:
http://www.nazi-leaks.info
http://www.p4rtyvan.net

Other articles on A3P:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/american-third-position
http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/Backgrounder:+American+Third+Position.htm

http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=940
http://ladylibertyslamp.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/american-olympic-gold-medalist-joins-white-supremacist-political-group/

Table Of Contents:

Private Conversations from James Kelso and A3P emails

Private Forum discussions exemplifying connections between a3p and Ron Paul

More Forum Conversations Filled with Racism, Sexism. Transphobia etc

Addresses, phone numbers and other personal info on hundreds of A3P members,supporters and merchandise purchasers

Private Conversations

Taken from the following email accounts:
admin@american3rdposition.com
admin@whitenewsnow.com
contact@american3rdposition.com
jamie.kelso@american3rdposition.com
jamiekelso@whitenewsnow.com

**CONNECTIONS WITH BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY**

Title: Meeting Minutes for 1/7

. . .
Following this is a selection of private emails, as well as a long list of names, addresses and phone numbers.

The attackers also gained access to A3P's twitter account, renaming it "American3Pwned" and using it to post links to a variety of additional information, including post-attack exchanges they have had with A3P personnel.

The motives and intentions of the attackers are clearly stated:
We call upon not only other antifascists but all those opposed to white supremacy to utilize this information and make hell for these white nationalist scumbags. It is essential if we wish to live in a world free from oppression to expose and confront racists at their jobs, their schools, at their homes and in the streets.

No Dialogue! No sympathy! Destroy White Supremacy!
Only a handful of mainstream media outlets have so far reported on the attack. Whereas the Anonymous rhetoric is malevolent, specifically anti-White and cites the ADL and SPLC as authorities, mainstream reports overlook the malevolence and helpfully transliterate that rhetoric into a righteous assault on "nazis" while focusing on the guilt-by-association of various non-A3P political figures.

Anonymous attacks American Nazis, msnbc.com.
Anonymous Expose Nazi Third Position 'Bridging Tactic' with Ron Paul, International Business Times.
BNP links to US extremists revealed by Anonymous, The Guardian.

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32 Comments:

Blogger Rusty Mason said...

Lies, lies, lies, as you'd expect from jews and other commie scum. RP is actually liberal in his personal views on race and immigration (though his faith to the Constitution and the vision of the Founders trumps all that). What these scumbag hackers mean is that RP won't lick Jew butt, so, ipso facto, he's a racistnaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

Whites are the only group not allowed to have their own interests, the only one targeted specifically for destruction, openly and proudly by jews and useful-idiot libs.

2/02/2012 01:54:00 PM  
Blogger Rusty Mason said...

"No Dialogue! No sympathy!"

You can have it your way, jew boy. Keep it up, so we can all see who the real aggressors are.

2/02/2012 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger FlippityFloppity said...

Funny how these media organizations dont mention the hackers violated federal law. I guess calling them "hackers" counts for that.

2/02/2012 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger Rusty Mason said...

Doesn't all this non-stop "white supremacy" propaganda get you steamed? Here I am minding my own business working and paying taxes day after day, bothering no one, but I am constantly called hateful names in the schools, in the law, in the media, and on the web by jews, blacks, mexicans, and assorted liberal murderers and thieves.

Every other race has its own country. Here in what was formerly my country, every other race has thousands of their own organizations, millions of laws and policies in their favor at my expense, and I am taxed to death to pay for it all.

This has been going on my entiere life and it's getting worse; the haters are becoming ever more aggressive. If I say anything at all about this gross unfairness, I am told that *I* am being hateful. Now all the churches and even some of my own family are handing over our children to this new commie regime.

It's too much. It's so wildly unfair that one can scarcely believe it. This aggression will not stand, man.

2/02/2012 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comments about Ron Paul show who the real target was - support the bombing of Iran or else!!!


"Doesn't all this non-stop "white supremacy" propaganda get you steamed?"

Yep, but all the anger was effecting my life so now i try and stay calm, figure out where the weak spots are and kick.

2/02/2012 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Average Joe said...

The hacker will probably turn out to be some Jewish or Asian virgin in his thirties who has never had a date in his life and still lives with his parents!

2/02/2012 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

The deliberately confusing thing, actually MSNBC disinformation, is to refer to this as an attack by a group called "Anonymous".

How have they verified that this group claiming to be "Anonymous" is the same group claiming to be "Anonymous" who also claimed responsibility for attacks on "several [Israeli] government websites on Sunday, including those of the Mossad, the Shin Bet secret service, the Israeli army and some government ministries."(http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/07/israel-anonymous-cyber-attack-websites)

Why would that group claimed to be "Anonymous" "cites the ADL and SPLC as authorities"? It's contradictory behaviour indicating this is not one and the same group.

Further, how does MSNBC know it is a group and not an individual? How does MSNBC know that this isn't a government agency, or a group associated with a public group like the ADL or SPLC?

We know that the Stuxnet virus must have been a government backed group due to the information gathering required to specifically target one aspect of nuclear power generation by Siemens.

There seems to be a mixture of naivety and deliberate misinformation from the MSM when it comes to reporting so called cyber crime. In this instance it is obvious that "Anonymous" is not the same entity that claimed other attacks. Information readily available to MSNBC. Given MSNBC's reporting style supporting the cracking of A3P I'd say it is deliberate misinformation from MSNBC.

2/02/2012 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Mary said...

These pathetic cowards and thieves. How weak and desperate they look.

I guess Jamie Kelso must scare the crap out of them, huh.
I am sad to see the hacked twitter account is still up with his addy, etc.

2/02/2012 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is also very suspicious considering that pro white groups and orgs support internet freedom while ADL and SPLC support censorship.

2/02/2012 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Hail said...

Was it just a matter of some hyuck-hyucking Pro-Multicultacracy Enforcer stealing Mr.Kelso's password(s)?

Let it be a lesson to change passwords often and not to use the same password for all one's doings.

2/02/2012 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Anonymous" thing is just a front as there isn't an "Anonymous" organization. These are just run-of-the-mill antifa retards wrapping themselves in an "Anonymous" banner to appear hip and cool and "down with that" to internet-savvy kiddies.

2/02/2012 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous ben tillman said...

It’s time for these cowardly suit and tie white supremacists to sleep with one eye open. Scared much?

With trillions of dollars of resources backing him up, he ANONYMOUSLY accuses of cowardice people who, using their own names, have stood up to that power.

This is why our opponents are properly called misanthropes.

2/02/2012 07:13:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

The subset of Anonymous claiming responsibility calls itself "OpBlitzkrieg".

http://anonops.blogspot.com/2012/02/opblitzkrieg-anonymous-strikes-neo.html:

"Anonymous Feb 1, 2012 08:14 AM

Reptilian psychopaths have no conscience, no remorse, and no accountability for their evil. Psychopaths believe their own lies and scam. They're so delusional, they're even proud of killing 6,000,000 innocent Jews, and to this day would vow to destroy blacks, asians, muslims, and gays, etc. as well. Psychopaths are the lowest of the low, they are the scum of the earth. They are the cancer of the human race. They must be vaporized from the face of the earth, before it's too late.

Say no to injustice and oppression!!!!!!
"

The jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.

Echoes of Susan Sontag (Rosenblatt), that authoritative jewish source on cancer:

"Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Balanchine ballets, et al. don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history."

2/03/2012 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger Franklin Ryckaert said...

You can savely adopt as a rule that everything that is fanatically attacked by Jews must be valuable.

2/03/2012 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

Not quite OT, a recent David Duke video on wikileaks, jewish media control, organized crime networks, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3GMDcFOq0g&feature=player_embedded#!

word verification: "terabla"

2/04/2012 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous kirk said...

'Anonymous', yeah right. 'Anonymous children of Moses' sounds more appropriate.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect Us.


Forgive what? Forget what?

Several hours before each assassination, each target's family received flowers with a condolence card reading: "A reminder we do not forget or forgive."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God#Organization

Ah, now it makes more sense.
It seems to be one of the tribal mottos and the absolute antithesis of the christian "love thy enemies".
You must love your enemy(ie. me, above all others). I, on the other hand, am free to hate you and everyone I perceive as my enemy, and also wish to obliterate you like those poor bastards the Amalekites (their first recorded genocide).

Now that "God is dead" however a new secular ideology has to serve the same function, hence cultural marxism comes into play.
That's the logic behind the 'hate-speech' and 'hate-crime' stuff. You are not allowed to hate anyone other than yourself. You, again, must 'love thy enemies'.

2/04/2012 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Armor said...

If the A3P isn't interesting enough in itself to justify an article in the Guardian, then the hacking of its website should be considered even less newsworthy. I googled A3P on the Guardian website and couldn't find anything else than their recent article about the anonymous hackers. They use the guilt-by-association technique in an absurd way. Ron Paul and the BNP are blamed for talking to the A3P. But if the Guardian had a specific article about the A3P, they would blame it for talking to the BNP.

An earlier version of the Guardian article can still be read in the Google cache, with the headline: "BNP praised by US neo-Nazis in emails hacked by Anonymous". That version was removed from the Guardian website: "This article has been taken down on 1 February 2012 pending investigation". In the new version, "nazi" has been replaced by "extremist", the reference to Ron Paul has disappeared, and a paragraph has been added where the BNP spokesman says he doesn't see what the issue is.

The last paragraph was left unchanged in the new version. It is a quote/endorsement by the Guardian of the leftist hackers' call to violence against White activists ("we call upon not only other antifascists..." –already quoted in Tanstaafl's article).

Also, for its readers who don't know about the A3P, the Guardian helpfully gave a link, not to the A3P's website, but to the ADL's description of the A3P!

2/05/2012 02:51:00 AM  
Blogger Rick said...

Cool Blog.
Anonymous is getting the press they want, but so is occupy. Too bad the US Justice dept. and SEC can't get some good press, oh, wait, you have to actually do your job for that to happen, huumm!In war we call a false story or reason for it "False Flag", right, well, internally, there can be the same concept so be careful, do your own homework before you act on a position and as in war, create collateral damage.
May free press live forever!

2/05/2012 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, I don't think those are really Anonymous hackers, but just anti-fa morons (like Europeans) who are using it as a mask.

2/05/2012 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kirk,

As amusing as that "Never forgive, never forget" connection is, the "Anonymous is Legion, We Never Forgive, Forget, etc." line is an old internet meme that started with kids blackmailing teenaged girls into posting naked pictures of themselves on image boards like 4chan.

The fact that this attack targeted the A3P of all groups and its greatest triumph was revealing alleged "connections" between Ron Paul and what they call a "Nazi" group suggests that the attackers are more specifically concerned with Jewish interests. It's a wonder that they didn't also target Kmac and TOO. The whole "Anonymous" thing is a convenient mask for their intentions.

What's particularly interesting is that the media treats "Anonymous" as if it is some actual monolithic group of vigilante cyber terrorists. I speculate whether "Anonymous" isn't being coopted as a bogeyman to help justify giving the government greater control of information on the internet. If some kids can "cyber attack" the FBI, imagine what China or Russia could do. :o

2/05/2012 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should also be noted for those who aren't in the know that 4chan is an anonymous image board (meaning "Anonymous" is the default name for everyone) hence where the name "Anonymous" for kids blackmailing porn from girls comes from. Anyone who's really curious about what "Anonymous" and 4chan is all about will find all of the info they need at http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page (warning: often NSFW).

And yes, I am aware of the irony of myself posting anonymously while talking about "Anonymous."

2/05/2012 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A3P and those associated with it have been suspect from the get go. This may have been a "let a hundred flowers bloom" type of thing - get lots of activist-minded racialists to hand over their personal information, then intentionally release the data, claiming it was "Anonymous" (a group that has in reality been quite hostile to Jews) that did it.

2/06/2012 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

""Anonymous" (a group that has in reality been quite hostile to Jews)"

[citation needed]

2/07/2012 06:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

[citation needed]

You could start here:

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Jew

2/07/2012 07:40:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

As others here have already pointed out, "Anonymous" is not a single, cohesive group. It is more of a mask behind which many groups and individuals with disparate viewpoints operate.

ED on "Anonymous":

"Starting as an in-joke itself, "Anonymous" is the name assigned to a poster who does not enter text in the [Name] field on chan imageboards. Anonymous is not a single person, but rather, represents the collective whole of the internet. One time some fag declared that AnonOps was actually Anonymous, and not just a completely infiltrated and manipulated front-end for the lying mainstream media."

ED on ED:

"At ED we archive the lulz."

For example, the page you cite captures the more overwrought and melodramatic expressions of "hostility toward jews" that can be found on the internet. It does not represent serious opposition to jewish power or influence. In fact the purpose seems to be to distract from and undermine serious opposition, associating it with and reducing it all to lulz.

To your original point:

"A3P and those associated with it have been suspect from the get go. This may have been a "let a hundred flowers bloom" type of thing - get lots of activist-minded racialists to hand over their personal information, then intentionally release the data"

Perhaps. It's more likely A3P was attacked because it has attracted lots of activist-minded racialists, because it represents serious opposition. As such A3P members should expect that their identity will be made public. Politcal parties are, after all, about people standing up and being counted.

2/07/2012 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For example, the page you cite captures the more overwrought and melodramatic expressions of "hostility toward jews" that can be found on the internet. It does not represent serious opposition to jewish power or influence.

That's not a reasonable assessment of that page at all. There's lots of stuff like this:

Despite only being 0.19% of the world's population, Jews control 99% of the world's money. (See: Rothschild, Warburg, etc.) They also control the media, the banks, LiveJournal's porn and gay communities, textbook publishers, music (especially rap), gold, and diamonds. And no, we're not fucking joking about this. If you don't believe that Jews control everything, just look up a list of Media Jews or finance Jews on Google. Or just look at the always disproportionate number of Jewish names in the governments of the West. Case in point, Roman Polanski and and Jeffrey Epstein got off without serious punishment for raping little girls (as recommended in their holy book, the Talmud), something a goy would have done serious pound-me-in-the-ass prison time for.

Or this:

At this point, the average person might say, "Wait a minute... that sounds like a conspiracy theory!!! One small race couldn't possibly be responsible for so much evil!" Well, here's a fun fact: in 1913, Jews seized control of America's sovereign power to control its own currency by establishing the Federal Reserve system (a parasitic ponzi scheme, modeled on the earlier Rothschild-dominated Bank of England, in which any dollar printed as legal currency is actually a dollar of debt owed, with interest, to the Jew-controlled private banks who own the shares of the regional Fed banks). The architect of this system was a Jew named Paul Warburg. Paul's brother, Max Warburg, worked directly under Hjalmar Schacht in Germany and directed the currency policies of the Third Reich that allowed Hitler to build his war machine. What's truly fascinating is that the Warburg family has a long history of grand-scale fraud -- the family was originally named del-Banco, and was the most prominent banking family in the Republic of Venice during that state's period of imperial supremacy in the 1400s. It's somewhat stunning to contemplate that it's not merely impersonal monetary systems that have existed for so many centuries, but in fact for over 500 years the same Jewish families have overseen them and maintained economic dominance.

That's more serious Jew-crit in those two paragraphs alone than you'll ever get out of the A3P, that's for certain.

2/07/2012 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

The value of any factual, reasonable point on that page is cancelled out in the presence of "lulz" such as this:

"They are responsible for every major war. Israel's Mossad secret service is responsible for all the world's hunger, pain, misery, war, and terrorism. Its boldest operation yet was 9/11. There are even rumors being spread around by some people that Israel is secretly building a time machine to attack Pearl Harbor, blow up the Hindenburg, and invent slavery.

Israel's main job is to slaughter Arabs by the thousands, bomb their cities, and raep their women, then take pictures and provide cheap and easy porn for Jews everywhere.
"

Valid points + blatant nonsense = valid points diminished.

2/07/2012 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous RED said...

"racistnaziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews"


Apparently, the only view that makes any sense, as far as I can see. Payback's gonna' be a bitch.

Who is it, who's going to see who the real aggressors are? We speak up for our race, so we're the villains - end of story. We're all sheet wearing White Supremacists after all, and rank and file Whites who know us, and know our views, believe it's true, and have no problem with the actions of these jew vermin. They love and worship jews, afterall. These White cowards will do anything to keep themselves out of the firing line of these anti-racists. The overwhelming majority of Whites are too busy watching football or protecting their "stuff", so they are not about to speak up for their race. That would be racist.

2/07/2012 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Valid points + blatant nonsense = valid points diminished.


Okay. Well, let me know if A3P ever makes a valid point about Jews, so I will know to bother to look for some blatant nonsense they have written to cancel it out. With avowed Zionist William D. Johnson at the helm, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Worth noting that the page on Jews has evidently been changed recently (likely by Jews), presumably in order to discredit the factual information. If you look at the archived page listed on the talk page, you'll see that the passage you cited above was not present:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100102012844/http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Jews

It's a wiki, anyone can edit it, so no doubt it will continue to change over time, and Jewish vandals will continue to alter it if nobody prevents them from doing so. Given the amount of shit the proprietors of that site have taken, it's amazing that it's still up at all. Even so, there's more truth about Jews on that page than you'll find from the vast majority of White nationalists.

2/07/2012 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

"avowed Zionist William D. Johnson"

[citation needed]

2/08/2012 07:29:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Matt Parrott, "The REAL Ron Paul Scandal" | Counter-Currents Publishing

2/09/2012 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Update: As suggested at the time, there is more to this than meets the eye.

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/im-past-the-point-of-no-return-inside-hackers-world-before-becoming-fbi-plant-20120309-1uo3a.html

But federal prosecutors say Hector Xavier Monsegur was an internet saboteur known as Sabu.

During the Arab spring, prosecutors say he hacked into government websites in Tunisia, Yemen and Algeria. He helped coordinate attacks on credit card companies after they refused to accept donations to Wikileaks. Then, they said, he added another layer to the subterfuge by informing on his accomplices after he was caught by the FBI last spring.


His cooperation led to charges filed on Tuesday against five people in the United States, Scotland, Ireland and England, including one other American, Jeremy Hammond, a 27-year-old from Chicago.

So, Sabu (Xavier Monsegur), "having a thick New York accent and laughing off the threat of prison", has been in contact with the FBI since last (2011) northern hemisphere spring.

Question related: what have the so called "group" called Anonymous been up to since spring 2011?

"Twitter, where many hackers boast of their conquests, lit up after the indictment disclosed that Hector Xavier Monsegur, 28, of New York, had pleaded guilty to federal hacking charges in August. He worked for the FBI for eight months following his June 7 arrest, according to a sworn statement by Assistant US Attorney Stephanie Christensen."

Sabu has been working for the FBI it is alleged.

Have Anonymous operations been FBI inspired and instigated?

Perhaps we have some explanation in the contradictory behaviour of this supposed group.

Recent attack:http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/corrupt-hacker-group-anonymous-takes-down-vatican-website-20120308-1ulby.html

"The hacking group Anonymous took down several Vatican websites on Wednesday, saying it was targeting the "corrupt" Catholic Church, a day after a high-profile bust of the group's alleged leaders.

"Anonymous decided today to besiege your site in response to the doctrine, to the liturgies, to the absurd and anachronistic concepts that your for-profit organisation spreads around the world," the hackers said in a statement.

"This attack is not against the Christian religion or the faithful around the world but against the corrupt Roman Apostolic Church," said the statement, posted on the Italian-language version of the Anonymous website.


Aside from taking down www.vatican.va, the hacking group also claimed responsibility for attacking several Vatican-related sites including that of its newspaper."


It is quite obvious that the so called group "Anonymous" is compromised by U.S. government agencies.

Who those agencies are ultimately working for can be inferred by their recent targets, like that on A3P.

Note: In their statement, Anonymous went on to accused the Catholic Church of several historical wrongdoings including killing opponents, burning texts and harbouring Nazi war criminals.

Nazi war criminals hey. The obsession that never ends.

3/08/2012 02:59:00 PM  

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