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Saturday, July 23, 2011

Norway Attacks - Anders Behring Breivik

Police dismiss initial fears Norwegian terror attacks were work of Islamist organisations:
The massacre in Norway was the work of a man with extreme right wing views who hated Muslims, police said this morning.

Officers found a series of raving internet posts by 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested for gunning down children on the island of Utoya yesterday.

National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told public broadcaster NRK that the suspected gunman's Internet postings 'suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but if that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen'.

Six foot tall and blond Breivik is reported to have arrived on the island of Utoya and opened fire after beckoning several young people over in his native Norwegian tongue.

Reports suggest he was also seen loitering around the site of the bomb blast in Oslo two hours before the island incident.
Pictured: The blond Norwegian, 32, arrested over 'holiday island massacre' and linked to Oslo car bomb blasts:
Authorities now claim 91 people were killed - in Oslo and on Utoya Island, 50 miles north of the capital, it was claimed.

Norwegian police said at least 84 were killed at Utoya alone and described the killings as of 'catastrophic dimensions' and 'the work of a madman'.
Teenagers on the Norwegian holiday island of Utoya had to 'swim for their lives' and hide in trees when the gunman fired indiscriminately at them.

Around 700 had gathered on the island for a meeting of the youth wing of the ruling Labour party.
Apparently Breivik targeted Norway's treasonous elite and their children rather than muslim aliens.

2011 Norway attacks at Wikipedia:
Public broadcaster NRK and several other Norwegian media identified the suspected attacker as a blond and blue-eyed Norwegian who expressed right-wing and anti-Muslim views on the Internet.

National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told public broadcaster NRK that the gunman's Internet postings "suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen.

He is reported to have written posts on the anti-Islamic[41] website document.no (all his apparent and unconfirmed writings listed; available on this site only in Norwegian).
Via Google Translate:
2009-12-03 01:21:04

Hlund, Fjordman, Hårstad, Rust

I'm NOK much later in the game than him when I have only been politically active for 13 years. I førstegenerasjonsdhimmi (Generation Y). I was active Oslo FrP / FpU in the first 6-7 years (in the cultural conservatives + laissez faire capitalist / liberal camp) and contributed to the Progress Party's success before I stopped. I felt the time was more important to help develop / promote the political doctrines abroad especially British, German, French, American). I ran the business a few years while I studied and earned a few million so I could finance a inntektsløs politically active life. I now use these funds to be able to work full time to further develop / promote the Vienna Academy (Vienna school of thought) that Fjordman, Bat Yeor, Spencer + many others have already contributed so much till. The last three years I worked full time with a cultural conservative works that will help to further develop / promote these political doctrines further.

Anyway, I consider the future consolidation of the cultural conservative forces on all seven fronts as the most important in Norway and in all Western European countries. It is essential that we work to ensure that all these 7 fronts using the Vienna school of thought, or at least parts of the grunlag for 20-70 year-struggle that lies in front of us.

The book is called, by the way 2083 and is in English, 1100 pages).

To sums up the Vienna school of thought:

- Cultural Conservatism (anti-multiculturalism)
- Against Islamization
- Anti-racist
- Anti-authoritarian (resistance to all authoritarian ideologies of hate)
- Pro-Israel/forsvarer of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries
- Defender of the cultural aspects of Christianity
- To reveal the Eurabia project and the Frankfurt School (ny-marxisme/kulturmarxisme/multikulturalisme)
- Is not an economic policy and can collect everything from socialists to capitalists

Frankfurt School (kulturmarxisme) is a very ambitious unofficial ideology (and quite unknown to most) and they have succeeded in most areas (except to smash capitalism, European Christianity and European identity, traditions, culture). Vienna school is more a defense against this where we often use the Marxist 'own creations against them (sexual liberation, feminism, liberalism, anti-racism, anti-autoriære arguments).

Vienna school of thought is far from a complete ideology but consists of principles and ideas that are constantly under development. It is unofficial and does not necessarily ever to be recognized.
"Vienna school of thought" is Breivik's term for the milieu centered about Gates of Vienna.

Thanks to Chechar for calling attention to Breivik's comments here.

From For the Record, at Gates of Vienna:
I know Fjordman personally, I know exactly what he looks like, and he does not resemble the alleged murderer in the slightest.

Furthermore, I was in conversation with Fjordman all day today, starting before the shootings, during the slaughter, and afterwards. If he was shooting up Utøya, he was doing an amazing job of communicating with his friends the whole time, even after he was thrown in a jail cell.

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46 Comments:

Blogger Span Ows said...

I think the fact that the comments he is reported to have written are addressed TO Fjordman (and others) makes the (lefty spread?) rumours that it was him pretty much defunct.

7/23/2011 05:20:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

One thing is clear: Anders Behring Breivik is no White Nationalist. No White Nationalist would ever open fire on white kids. I mean: not even in the most gruesome pages of William Pierce’s or Harold Covington’s novels such a thing happens. In those revolutionary novels the nationalists don’t even kill colored kids! (It is important to say this over and over if some nut tries to relate yesterday’s incident at Norway with us.)

Take note that Anders Behring Breivik subscribes to the “Vienna School” of fighting immigration, which is by definition “antiracist”. If this incident damages the anti-immigration cause I can only hope that it affects only the “Vienna School” and not the genuine nationalists.

7/23/2011 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

As der Schwerter, the only blogsite in German which translates both MacDonald and Tanstaafl, has published an entry that resonates with what I said above. Here there are a few translated excerpts:

Quote:

The blog is an old http://fjordman.blogspot.com/ blog by Fjordman [Chechar’s note: the team changed the name to “As der Schwerter” after they became conscious of the JQ, but the URL remains the same for obvious reasons]. Breivik has nothing to do with this blog.

Breivik supposedly read Fjord's "Defeating Eurabia" and has recommended it as a good Christmas present.

Other views of the alleged bomber sound as though he was very influenced by Fjordman. And they sound pretty reasonable.

Therefore, one may wonder why the press reproduces the detail… Because when it has sufficiently been reported… then, for the people, the Nationalists kill children.

In Norway, most likely a "False Flag" campaign took place. No European nationalist is capable of killing children! We become the scapegoat!

/end quote

7/23/2011 10:01:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Norway: Mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is anti-racist, pro-homosexual and pro-Israel

Source: http://blog.balder.org/?p=1241

Don't miss the previous day's pic against which Breivik might have reacted, "Boikott Israel".

7/23/2011 10:13:00 AM  
Blogger Svigor said...

Holy shit! This is the first I'd heard of this. I saw the reports of the Oslo attack but not this.

I love how he's tall, blond and blue-eyed, over and over. Who bombed Oslo? Short swarthy brown-eyed folks?

7/23/2011 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger Svigor said...

Haha, and the guy's an anti-Jihadist nut, to boot. I'm never going to let the anti-Jihadists live this down, lol!

7/23/2011 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

If due to traffic Balder Blog is, again, unavailable, I’ve republished it: here

7/23/2011 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, but does anyone know what happened to Incogman? Incogman.net now just leads to a domain parking page.

7/23/2011 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From Jeppo, posted @ GOV:

From Breivik's manifesto:

"Q: Who is your favourite contemporary author and why?
A: That would be Fjordman. Despite a couple of attempts, I have not been able to meet with him even though he is Norwegian. He is quite paranoid which is understandable to a certain degree I guess. Many have asked if I am Fjordman, but this is obviously not the case. To be honest, I had no idea who he was until I was six months into my current compendium, “2083”. At that time I had researched most of the primary and secondary topics for my book. To my great surprise I found that Fjordman had written about many of the same topics I was writing about. The only difference being that he was a professional essay writer and I was not. Our views are quite similar with the exception of
me being an actual armed resistance fighter. I had researched hundreds of writers in the past, many of whom are good. However, I really felt a connection to Fjordmans essays."

7/23/2011 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Continued:


...... "Continued philosophizing about the future cultural conservative political model, when we, the cultural conservatives, again seize political and military power at one point between 2025-2083

I have been thinking about my post-operational situation, in case I survive a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial. When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted on me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of shit, a living nightmare. Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize. They will possibly do everything they can to distort the truth about me, KT and our true objectives, and attempt to make even revolutionary conservatives detest me. They will label me as a racist, fascist, Nazi-monster as they usually do with everyone who opposes multiculturalism/cultural Marxism. However, since I manifest their worst nightmare (systematical and organized executions of multiculturalist traitors), they will probably just give me the full propaganda rape package and propagate the following accusations: pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2.

I have an extremely strong psyche (stronger than anyone I have ever known) but I am seriously contemplating that it is perhaps biologically impossible to survive the mental, perhaps coupled with physical torture, I will be facing without completely breaking down on a psychological level. I guess I will have to wait and find out.

Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom – by default. A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated. The Perfect Knight I have always strived to be. A Justiciar Knight is a destroyer of multiculturalism, and as such; a destroyer of evil and a bringer of light. I will know that I did everything I could to stop and reverse the European cultural and demographical genocide and end and reverse the Islamisation of Europe.

I guess it is tempting for the many who have endured years of vilification, to just start believing the propaganda and embrace NS fully. However, I remain a staunch anti-Nazi and I blame NSDAP for the situation we are in. Hadn’t it been for the actions of the cultural right wing extremists known as the NSDAP our Western European countries would not be dominated by the cultural Marxist extremist regimes we witness today. If the NSDAP had been isolationistic instead of imperialistic(expansionist) and just deported the Jews (to a liberated and Muslim free Zion) instead of massacring them, the anti-European hate ideology known as multiculturalism would have never been institutionalized in Western Europe, because the Marxists would never have been so radicalized to begin with. The cultural conservatives would have been in a very strong and dominant situation today. Western European countries would have had cultural conservative doctrines similar to what we see in Japan and South Korea."

7/23/2011 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'2083' by Andre Behring Brevik


http://www.2shared.com/file/M-s-2fBD/2083-AEuropeanDeclarationofInd.html

7/23/2011 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger Kairos said...

@ Chechars comment about "As der Schwerter":

We are, in fact, the only German blog that translates Tanstaafl, MacDonald et al.

Our adress is:

http://fjordman.wordpress.com/

The blog started as a place for German translations of Fjordman- Essays. Fjordman never had anything to do with it, we just translated a whole lot of his essays into German.

We renamed the Blog (formely "Counterjihad"), because we felt that counterjihadism is not enough. Within the last years we discussed racial matters and critiziced judaism, and translated texts that deal with these matters (kurtagic, macdonald, tanstaafl, Parrott, Chechar, Strom and many more).

The named blog http://fjordman.blogspot.com/ is an old Blog of Fjordman. We have nothing to do with it - and neither has Breivik. Some German sources said that this was Breiviks Blog to "proof" that he was Fjordman. But he is not.

7/23/2011 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

video by Andre Behring Breivik :

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38924_Pamela_Geller_Lashes_Out-_The_Little_Green_Shew/comments/#ctop


See comment no. 82 for LiveLeak video

7/23/2011 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Kairos said...

I think when we say: "Hey, Breivik was a counterjihadist, see?" and the "Viennas" say: "Hey, he was a racist, see?" it will be the exact thing they want us to do.

There are many points where we disagree with the counterjihadists, but the media strategy seems to be a variation of "divide and conquer."

I agree with chechar that no white nationalist could do such a thing, but when I heard that the killer should be Fjordman, I laughed out loud. Most members of the counterjihadist- scene are good people who just do not see some relations, are led astray by jews or want to do something about the dying of europe, but fear to be seen as "Nazis."

7/23/2011 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

To echo Chechar's inspired observations on this calamity, how terribly fitting it is that a Fjordman disciple, bragging about his strong psyche and sense of martial purpose, randomly massacres his own.

Let me say that I've recently become convinced that the most vocal of these "Vienna school" types (and I encourage everyone to henceforth use Mr. Breivik's nomenclature for the GoV crowd) are either jews or people compensated well by jews, so I'm going to stop debating them, as they have not been logically persuaded to their position, so logic won't dissuade them from it either. I think Fjordman is jewish, or has some inextricable jewish connection that limits his available intellectual options.

What about the actual gentiles among the Vienna school? I'm not the first to call them "useful idiots", but i think the "useful" part sometimes masks the "idiot" part; as in, you have to be pretty stupid to embrace philo-semitism and ethnonationalism at the same time. This Fjordman disciple was just crazy on top of stupid.

Somewhat off-topic, but just another reminder how stupid these philo-semites are, I just saw on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/07/23/iran.physicist.killed/index.html?hpt=hp_bn2

Israel/American agents (no doubt) just drove up to a 35 year old Iranian physicist's house on motorcycles, killing him and injuring his wife. This is terrorism that we simply would not be involved in if it were not for israel. These kinds of actions create inexorable hatred and almost certain blowback. Our cities are a much easier target for revenge than israel, since jews are concerned about protecting their own while goading us to embrace the invade/invite paradigm, brilliantly blaming the tenets of Islam whenever retaliation occurs to cover their culpability.

7/23/2011 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

better link to Breivik's video (forget the Little Green Fruitballs link):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uFdN03rp1A

7/23/2011 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

I have only had time to quickly scan Breivik's book, 2083 - A European Declaration of Independence. He discusses his views on jews and "nazis" in some detail near the end, pp. 1458. In a nutshell he excuses the jews and faults the "nazis". Despite this he says quite a few things that will no doubt infuriate jews:

The “holocaust religion” has grown into a destructive anti-European monster, which prevents nationalistic doctrines from emerging. And without nationalistic doctrines, Europe will wither and die, which we are seeing today. It’s quite ironic that Even Israel would appear to have become a victim of it. Needless to say, while I am a strong supporter of Israel and of all patriotic Jews I acknowledge that the anti-European holocaust religion must be deconstructed, and instead replaced with an anti-Islamic version. After all we are talking about a disproportion of 6 million killed Jews vs. 300 million massacred Jews/Christians/Hindus/Buddhists/Zoroastrians/Animists.

As of now, the “holocaust religion” is one of the major factors that are making Europe vulnerable and susceptible for Islamic conquest through demographical warfare.


Likewise, he uses very odd rhetoric for an "anti-racist":

Fighting for your people’s survival, when threatened, is the most logical thing to do to. Defending your people and culture from genocide is the most basic and recognised human right and one of few causes actually worth dying for.

. . .

"Although I do admit that I am disgusted by the current development, I would rather say I’m driven by my love for Europe, European culture and all Europeans. This does not mean that I oppose diversity. But appreciating diversity does not mean that you support genocide of your own culture and people by accepting f example Islamic Demographic Warfare."

. . .

We fight for the free indigenous peoples of Europe, for those not yet born and for the memory and wishes of our forefathers, our martyrs. We fight to preserve our culture, our identity, our country and for Christendom.

7/23/2011 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Hunter Wallace on the 2011 Norway attacks

7/23/2011 08:41:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Kairos:

"There are many points where we disagree with the counterjihadists, but the media strategy seems to be a variation of "divide and conquer."

I agree with chechar that no white nationalist could do such a thing, but when I heard that the killer should be Fjordman, I laughed out loud. Most members of the counterjihadist- scene are good people who just do not see some relations, are led astray by jews or want to do something about the dying of europe, but fear to be seen as "Nazis."
"

From the quote below, Breivik would seem to agree. But as much as Breivik sympathizes with "nazi" positions, idealizes pan-European solidarity and common cause, and questions the multicult, he will not recognize or reject its very core. Showing more nuanced reasoning than Fjordman, Breivik still manages to arrive at the same conclusion. He excuses his own "nazi"-like thoughts by transfering blame onto the Eternal Nazi:

"Q: Considering the fact that you may be willing to fight alongside so called neo-Nazis against cultural Marxists under extreme circumstances, doesn’t that make you a neo-Nazi or a neo-Nazi sympathiser?

A: First of all, I don’t consider 70-80% of so called neo-Nazis to be actual Nazis, but rather misguided individuals. I believe many of these youngsters have made an unfortunate mistake by being drawn to the Nazi symbols due to lack of alternatives and because it is the strongest and most well known anti-Marxist banner. But I don’t believe the majority of so called neo-Nazis really support the slaughtering and genocide of all Jews, a one party state and an imperialistic policy of conquest. I believe they are just bewildered nationalists in search for uniting factors. In their frustration they have chosen the most despicable banner available as a way of saying a big “fuck you” to the current establishment. But I am well aware that 20-30% of them really hates Jews and support most aspects of national-socialism. This shouldn’t be tolerated and we shouldn’t sympathise with them whatsoever. Driven by their Jew hate, these Nazis are willing to take side with Muslims in order to accomplish their goals. They are absolutely blinded by this hate.
"

. . .

"We share the same anti -EU, -UN and –immigration/multiculturalism (Muslim immigration at least) sentiments and the goal of “preserving European traditions, culture etc” which is the primary reason why more and more ex-NS people are conforming and joining the new “European right”.

As a message to those hardcore NS’s who are simply unable to compromise; Conform and join our armed struggle against the European cultural Marxists/multiculturalists (the enablers of the Islamisation of Europe), or continue to be sidelined and marginalised. Multiculturalism is the hole in the dike. Islam is the water pouring in. Everything else should be irrelevant. Your “Jew” obsession is undermining your own struggle against multiculturalism.
"

The irony is that Breivik (and other non-jews of the Vienna School) is convinced that "jew obsession" has stymied his cause, yet he fails to see his own "nazi" obsession as just another form of jew obsession. What's more, he actually scapegoats "nazis" who have long been sidelined and marginalized for supposedly scapegoating jews.

7/23/2011 10:56:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Kevin MacDonald:
The Norwegian horror
The Political Ideas of Anders Behring Breivik

7/23/2011 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Breivik's blog rants reveal him as a Nazi sympathiser - mirror.co.uk:

"ANDERS BREIVIK is an extensive blogger whose online rants about politics expose him as a Nazi sympathiser."

Oslo massacre suspect reportedly was a member of hate groups - NYPOST.com:

"The alleged mastermind behind the bloody attacks that killed at least 92 people in Oslo, Norway, was a member of an online community of Nazis and right-wing fanatics who encouraged attacks on government buildings and railed against immigrants, a Swedish research group revealed yesterday.

Alleged mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik, 32, joined "Nordisk" -- a Swedish online group obsessed with violent hate speech -- in 2009, according to Expo, a Swedish anti-extremist group formerly led by author Stieg Larsson.
"

Norway suspect Anders Behring Breivik was a member of Nazi web forum | News.com.au:

"THE suspect in the twin attacks that killed at least 92 people in Norway was a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi Internet forum, a group monitoring far-right activity says.

"He created a profile in 2009, with a pseudonym that can be traced back to his email address," Mikael Ekman, a researcher with the Stockholm-based Expo foundation, told AFP on Saturday.
"

How did Expo get this information from Nordisk? Their own article doesn't say: Terror suspect was member of nazi web forum.

7/23/2011 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

"The irony is that Breivik (and other non-jews of the Vienna School) is convinced that "jew obsession" has stymied his cause, yet he fails to see his own "nazi" obsession as just another form of jew obsession."

Both Jews and National Socialist Germans believe(d) themselves to be the ethnic vessel through which a millenarian destiny for Europe and the world would be achieved. Both believe(d) that in order for this to come about the Other as archetypal demonic adversary must be utterly, permanently marginalized Finally and for all time. There is ultimately no irony as that kind of Manichean cosmological thinking is intrinsic to both belief systems. There are those who cannot believe in such nonsense and yet realize the masses need such beliefs as containing the motive power to move them to action. We call these cynics.

7/24/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT, but does anyone know what happened to Incogman? Incogman.net now just leads to a domain parking page.

Incogman.net was down for me too, then back up when I checked late Sunday night, and now it's down again. When it was up, there was no update from Incog as to the situation, but the two most recent comments were 4 hours previous and 1 day previous. Based on that limited data, I suspect he's fighting off a hacker attack. I'm sure he'll be back once the attack is over and he's repaired and secured his site.

7/24/2011 02:33:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Two opposite views on the Norway massacre

7/24/2011 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Incogman.net was down for me too, then back up when I checked late Sunday...

That should read "late Saturday night" or "early Sunday morning".

7/24/2011 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Brandon said...

Scott said..."randomly massacres his own"

No. They may be Norweigan and have his skin color, but they are children of his enemy who are being raised to do as their parents who are committing violence against their own countrymen by allowing in the dark skinned non native hordes who rape and kill the native daughters.

The shooters violence is a direct response of the violence of multiculturalism/egalitarianism and is merely the first of many to come.

Rev. 2:23"...and her children will I slay with death..."

7/24/2011 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Armor said...

It's hard to guess what will be the psychological impact of Breivik's action in people's minds. I like to think that it will make it harder for the race-replacers to keep on replacing us. The media are refusing to see that Breivik is simply an anti-immigration activist. They are calling him anti-islam, right-wing, neo-nazi, Christian fundamentalist, but not anti-immigration. They never call us "anti-immigration". They don't like the idea that many Whites disagree violently with the policy of massive race-replacement. Even so, most Whites will eventually understand what his motivations were. It's a shame that one single action like that cannot be enough to cause a general rebellion against the anti-white left.

Once the funerals are over, it will be interesting to interview the victims' leftist parents. Many of them will still insist that Norway must keep importing more Somalis. They will repeat after crazy General Casey :

“Our diversity (...) is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse”.

Most of them will deny any responsibility in the violent death of their own children. But other people will start to say that it's time to cut the losses. What is the point of forcing third-world enrichment on White people who react by committing mayhem? Not everyone wants to push the madness to the bitter end. The Utoya tragedy should be used by everyone as a pretext to say that enough is enough. Immigration and left-wing lunacy must stop, and the immigrants must be sent back home.

Violence tend to create guilty feelings in the victims. Today, White people are the victims, and we feel guilty for resenting the destruction of our White nations. Our left-wing tormentors think of themselves as very high-minded. But if there was more anti-leftist violence, many mindless liberals would start feeling guilty about the destruction of their brothers' lives and they would change their views.

7/24/2011 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our narrative should be that this guy was very conscientious and as a good citizen explored objectively what the long-term trajectory of muslim immigration would be. When he discovered the historical models (e.g., Lebanon (tipping point 60%), Anatolia, etc.) the insanity of the multicult regime's policy drove him insane. He's really a victim of an insane policy. No SANE person wants to see his race replaced in his own country.

Now that this is in the public sphere, the issue should be did the regime consider these historical precedents that he learned of in his research before embarking on their policy? If not, they are criminally negligent, if so they are traitors. His act put these issues on the map. Distance yourself from his act, but not his rhetoric - any sane individual might lose his sanity when he became aware of these historical precedents.

7/24/2011 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fact, conservatives in Europe should adopt all the made-up stagey props of the left evident in, e.g., The DaVinci code and present his breaking point as the 60% number he learned of in his research. He became fixated on the 60% number and he was driven to an insane act because he thought there was still time.

The conservative anti-race-replacement activists should call their movement "We're not waiting to 60%" and make the regime justify how many immigrants can be allowed into the country without losing cultural hegemony. If that number has already been reached (recent immigrants aren't assimilating) there is no reason to let any more in.

7/24/2011 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

who are being raised to do as their parents who are committing violence against their own countrymen

All children are being "raised" to do violence against their nations in that way. Should we kill them all?

This guy has the love of abstraction vs. real love of blood that has destroyed Europe. Yeah, I know sometimes the ends justifies the means, but this piece of shit doesn't even merit such a discussion, as his ends were as foggy as his delusional mind. A guy like this is at best a foot soldier in a movement organized by lucid thinkers, but he was delusional enough to think himself some messiah and strike out on his own. He struck out, badly. Nothing good will come of this, and anyone who thinks so has problems dealing with difficult truths.

7/24/2011 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Scott: The enemy turns EVERYTHING to their advantage, why can't we try to turn this to our advantage? I wish no ill to the victims, but the regime has been remarkably callous to white rape victims across western Europe, for heaven's sake! Do these rape atrocities ever give the regime pause and make them reconsider their policies and forsake their ends? You're insane if you think it does!

7/24/2011 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Breivik even a real person? All we've seen are the same couple of "photos" in every article along with "quotes" from his online persona.

Where are the videos of this man speaking? Pictures of him during or since his arrest are strangely missing. Lots of photos of victims on the island but none of Breivik. The people on the island had cell phones, right? So where are the pictures and videos of him during the shooting spree?

7/24/2011 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For creation of fake 911 victims by the media see the vicsim report and phoney memorials at www.septemberclues.info

7/24/2011 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Breivik even a real person? All we've seen are the same couple of "photos" in every article along with "quotes" from his online persona.

GW at Majority Rights has the news (in the comments section) that his Dad claims not to have seen Breivik since 1995, and had only a few fleeting meetings with him before that. So his Dad thinks he's real, but just barely.

7/24/2011 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people on the island had cell phones, right? So where are the pictures and videos of him during the shooting spree?

Well, maybe they were too busy running for their lives to film anything. Or maybe some videos will surface. But you are right that a lot of things about this attack are very strange.

7/24/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The enemy turns EVERYTHING to their advantage, why can't we try to turn this to our advantage?"

Exactly. You can't control these events you can only control how you react to them and how you stop the other side using them for their advantage.

7/25/2011 12:02:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

OD is the only place on the WN blogosphere where this is being discussed with BRUTAL honesty.

7/25/2011 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of problems I have had with Wallace this past year, he is essentially correct on this topic.

The fact that people on the far right whether White nationalists, traditionalists, or anti-Jihadist types would attack Breivik as a "lunatic" or "evil" shows the "movement" for the joke that it currently is.

Whether you agree or do not agree with Breivik methods or the timing of those methods, the man was clearly no lunatic. He had a pretty deep understanding over what was going on. The fact that the far right keeps repeating Lunatic! Crazy! Evil! Nut! over and over like some mantra shows their absolute cowardice.

7/25/2011 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

Anonymous is right, this guy wasn't a nutcase. He was a brilliant strategist who has helped the cause of ethnonationalism even more than Tim McVeigh. I have it on good authority that the jews who control the global media, direct American domestic and military policy, and who rule the international banking cartel that has made debt slaves of us all, have just convened in Gstaad to begin discussing the best way they can step down from power in the safest manner possible, afraid as they are of more Breviks, whose Zionist beliefs were an obvious subterfuge. I myself have decided to join the cause, and will start a steroid cycle and daily sessions of World of Warcraft to steel my courage to shoot ducks in a pond forthwith.

7/25/2011 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scott, it is people like you that waste our time. You write down your sarcastic stupidities trying to be clever when it is actually your way to cover up your inabilty to think.

Your not being clever, you are a moron. If you have nothing to add other then your lame attempts at sarcasm then please waste someone else's time.

7/25/2011 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Selected Occidental Dissent comments on the Norway incident (the selection is done in my blog).

7/25/2011 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This event is feeding into a growing trend in which western governments are turning their anti-terror apparatus inward."

http://www.blacklistednews.com/%E2%80%9CWhite_Alqaeda%E2%80%9D_targeted_as_western_governments_turn_terror_apparatus_inward/14859/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Flanders

7/25/2011 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

You write down your sarcastic stupidities trying to be clever when it is actually your way to cover up your inabilty to think.

LOL. What you call my "sarcastic stupidities" must be your actual position if you think this guy is such a clear-thinking hero. In fact, why are you wasting time commenting anomysouly when you too can join Mr. Breivik's cause. STart a DBOL regimen and play WoW then go ahead and shoot kids. Maybe in DC, like that sniper fellow, since most kids probably have liberal parents there, right? You're calling people cowards, when you're the coward if Mr Breivik has shown you the light, but you're too timid to emulate him and just sit around on your computer. Or are you to a mass murderer what an uncoordinated schlub is to an athlete, i.e. a jock-sniffer?

7/25/2011 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hunter Wallace has gone from "mainstreamer" who says we shouldn't criticize Jews because it will turn ordinary people off, to getting giddy with excitement over the murder of a bunch of pro-Palestinian teenagers. What's the common thread here?

7/26/2011 01:25:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

The common thread is that now OD is vanguardist and the other side mainstreamer :)

7/26/2011 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly. You can't control these events you can only control how you react to them and how you stop the other side using them for their advantage.

Its how these events are perceived thats crucial. And the most powerful method of manipulating this perception is the media, primarity the TV.

And who controls that?

Whatever else AAB is he surely must know that, which is why I suspect he is either insane or its a false flag or some combination thereof.

Such an attack can only be evaluted through its effect on the media circus and we know how thats going to play. ABB (or whoever really did it) must have known it too.

8/16/2011 07:31:00 PM  

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