A Monomaniacal Concern for Jewish Interests and the Infiltrating, Hijacking and Marginalizing it Inspires
Read about it in the comments at Mangan's.
Labels: dennis mangan, fjordman, jewish influence, nicholas stix, race
posted by Tanstaafl at 7/18/2011 11:52:00 PM
27 Comments:
I know most of you if any have little sympathy for the Catholic Church but the Church is one organisation that has had experience in trying to combat Jewish perfidy for over thousand years.
I am reading Maurice de Pinay's "The Plot against the Church" and it is amazing how over and over again parasitic jews were allowed into a country and then proceed to destroy it from inside and the Church has had to issue expulsion orders just to ensure the survival of the country.
Some will argue that it is the fault of the Church that the Jews are the way they are. But look at the case of the protestant USA.
Many Americans died to "liberate" the jews from "anti-semitic" Europe,and they were received into the USA with open arms. In one generation however,they have managed to undermine every single American institution;the universities,the judiciary, capitalism etc.They have actively encouraged the immigration of aliens to weaken American values.
Why couldn't they be happy just to settle and build their lives in the USA like any other immigrant group? The parallels with eighth cenutry Visgothic Spain is amazing.
The book tends to be repetitive as over and over again, Europeans with short memories would welcome jews into their countries and the jews would then proceed to undermine them from the inside.
Another theme of the book is how the jews would pretend to convert to Catholicism and then proceed to usurp the Church for their own ends; hence the need for Inquistions.
Unfortunately,they have been succesfuland the Church has been destroyed by jewish communist, infiltators and masons. You only have to look at the behavior of the present Pope,who has reverted thousands of years of Catholic teaching to absolve the jews from the accusation of "Christ-killers.'
The book was published in 1962 on the eve of Vatican 11 because the authors wanted to warn Catholic churchmen of the dangers of communist jewish infiltration. Unfortunately, their warnings went unheeded and the Church has been mortally weakened.
I know the Catholic Church is one organisation that everyone loves to hate. But I ask you, who controls the media,who writes and publishes the history book?
When the destruction of the USA by the jews is apparent to all,what organisation in the USA has the spiritual and moral courage to deprive the jews of their ill-gotten gains, and expel them like Edward 1st did from England in 1290 and Fernando and Isabella from Spain in 1492? The Jews have been expelled from over 100 european territories. Does anyone think that the USA will manage to do the same to guarantee it's own survival or will it implode like the USSR?
Fjordman must be disappointed with all the credibility-destroying, self-marginalizing commenters on Mangan's Anti-Jihadism.
I just left a comment under the name RABBI DANNY DANON which is currently in moderation. I'll repost it here:
"People like Tanstaafl will destroy the credibility of the anti-immigration movement if they are allowed to dominate the debate. They self-marginalize, and also drag down any group they infiltrate. The sad part is that many of them are genuinely incapable of understanding this. Containment is the only answer to this problem."
Credibility with whom? How much credibility does the judeophile right have outside of it's dwindling demographic? And what exactly have these same ever accomplished. Name one single item.
Your whole paragraph better describes Judeophiles and their Jewish masters than their critics and detractors. Typical. Hypocrisy and projection in the service of Jewish supremacism, which in this and in similar matters takes the form of Jewish blamelessness.
I left a few comments on the thread in question but they still haven't appeared. I don't know if this is blogger that has a problem with me, or just Mangan's, or what, but it's getting old. It's gotten to the point that I had to start a damn wordpress blog just so I can comment on blogger blogs. FFS.
Fjordman is a truly pathological case. Last month represented a real debacle for Team Counter-Jihad and Fjordman exposed himself as an intellectual coward who, with exactly ZERO arguments (like Con Swede), only insulted and dismissed our points in a GoV thread. I mean, in a postmortem GoV thread even Takuan Seiyo told Fjordman that in America the JQ is indeed relevant on immigration matters. Takuan Seiyo, for God’s sake! But Fjordman didn’t EVEN respond to his half-Jew friend. Instead he now resorts once more to aspersions in this new Mangan’s thread with exactly the same coward behavior: ZERO arguments on the JQ. (Curiously, in my stats page I see that someone from Norway constantly visits one of these articles about Fjordman.)
Something is wrong at Mangan's: there are no new posts or comments, and apparently a lot of comments are in moderation or being lost.
Best case: Mangan is shutting down for a while, because he doesn't like this kind of "contribution".
As I pointed out in my comment (that did not appear), it's poor form to say the least to try to ban people from somebody else's blog, and inconsistent to try to implement this aggressive strategy of "containment" while wailing about the victim (a familiar and welcome commentator, unlike say Silver who has been told repeatedly he's not welcome and trolls regardless) might be allowed to "dominate the conversation". What is trying to silence commentary on other people's blogs if not trying to "dominate the conversation"?
It would make sense to me that Mangan would want a breather from his civilized blog being used for a typically vicious purge.
I hope that there's nothing worse than that happening.
It seems to be practically a law of nature that when Jews and supporters of Jewish influence reach a critical mass in some forum, then demonizing and purging critics of Jews becomes the critical issue. And the number of Jews and supporters needed to trigger this effect, in relation to the likely opposition, is low.
That's one of the reasons to think that the Catholic Church has been of value, historically. It's been a vast, continuing forum for the discussion of serious moral issues, with Jews forbidden to take it over and use it as a weapon of domination, like Hollywood or Wall Street.
Of course, it's not like that any more.
Nazis versus blacks at Unamusement Park.
Calmly discussing the choice between neo-nazis and blacks, the self-identified partial-jews there come across as more intelligent and far more skeptical of anti-nazi hype than Fjordman. Fjordman sounds like Abe Foxman in comparison.
(forgot to click on the follow-up box)
The World According to AmericanGoy: Black people.
AG is somewhere between Unamused and Fjordman - starting to see the truth in what "racists"/"nazis" have long been saying, but still hating "racists"/"nazis".
Skim his article, but read the comments. This one was very Fjordman-like, in a "self-marginalizing" way:
"Anonymous said...
If you write nazi stuff, you'll get praised by nazis. And you'll lose non-nazi readers.
Deleting the rss feed right now. Enjoy your new friends."
I recall when I first started facing race and "the jews" honestly, hyper-loquacious half-jew Mencius Moldbug's advice was to, surprise surprise, self-marginalize:
"In my humble opinion, if you actually want to fight for the white race and all, your most effective strategy is to ditch this nym and blog, and pick another one which loses the Jew stuff."
"Whether you believe it or not, jews in general, liberal and otherwise, do in fact conspire openly and obsessively about what is best for "the jews".
7/20/2011 02:56:00 PM"
Exactly right.
All that Tan and the rest of us write is still a tiny fraction of what Jews write and say on MSM and at Harvard. Nor do we even approach their intensity or extremes which they are carrying out as ethnic cleansing of us at Harvard, the MSM and the rest of America.
This is why the little that Tan does produces such a huge reaction that goes outside their territory into that of others to stop Tan and the others.
This "spontaneous" behavior should be and is frightening.
I wonder if there is a programming and a database of our names that will automatically delete or remove from search engines what we have written including comments everywhere.
AG is somewhere between Unamused and Fjordman
He's well beyond either of those two clowns in terms of understanding the Jewish issue. I've followed his blog for a few years, he's written some pretty good stuff on the subject.
Reading his comments at AG, Unamused's "white" nationalism comes across with a distinct preference for jews over Whites. His is a variant of crypto-jew-first "white" advocacy that calls to mind the previous efforts of Ian Jobling and Guy White. Unlike them Unamused admits his own conflicted half-jew position and doesn't try to simply censor discussion of the White/jew faultline. Instead he talks about the "jew stuff" a bit and then dismisses the pro-White side as pathological.
The premise of his hypothetical choice between blacks and "nazis" is what's good for "the jews", among whom he firmly includes himself. As with Fjordman, Unamused's main argument against Whites is "you're stupid". If someone can point me to a criticism of jews he has made that is more biting than calling them "liberal", lumping them together with White "liberals" as if there is no difference, I would like to see it.
Well, I've finally had it with Mangan's. For now anyway. In fact I think I've had it with most blogs other than Sailer's and a couple others. I'm just going to start responding at my blog and posting a comment linking there when a conversation interests me enough to reply comprehensively.
PS Tan, I thought that Indian cartoon was great and it prompted a me to write a couple posts, one as a general response to the Reddit morons (the sanity of White leftoids is very much in question IMO) and another about Jedediah Smith.
One of the funnier things about what everyone in this thread is talking about is how the conversation between White Ethnopatriots and "pro-white" Jews clearly highlights the fact that Jews are simply already too ethno-patriotic for White Ethnopatriotism. It's like trying to sell lemonade to someone running a lemonade stand. In fact, it's like trying to sell lemonade to someone running a Mike's Hard Lemonade stand, lol.
The irony being, only White Ethnopatriots are paying attention.
Whoa, Svigor, you have a blog now. You are no longer the wandering anti-Semite. Kudos.
Svigor unleashed! There's so much sense there it may tear a hole in the blogosphere.
From SBPDL: A Murder in Midtown: What Brittney Watts' Murder Symbolizes:
"She's got the shrill tone of the doubting believer. I believe shrinks call this "displacement.""
Likewise with Fjordman.
Ostensibly pro-White writers and websites that attempt to stifle criticism of Jews, or promote a pro-Jewish agenda (often in subtle ways):
- Jared Taylor (AmRen)
- Richard Spencer (AltRight)
- Council of Conservative Citizens
- Hunter Wallace (Occidental Dissent)
- Matt Parrott (Hoosier Nation, also a mod at many genuinely pro-White sites unfortunately)
- Brett Stevens (Amerika.org, Stevens is Jewish)
- Lawrence Auster (View from the Right)
- Takimag
- SBPDL
- Dennis Mangan
- Unamusement Park
- Thrasymachus (Dissecting Leftism)
- hbd chick
- The Cold Equations
- Most HBD blogs other than Steve Sailer (to the extent that they pose as pro-White in the first place)
If you look at the blogrolls of most of the above, you'll get a good index of kosher HBD/"White" sites. Also worth mentioning that Stormfront is moving in a very kosher direction.
Looks like Fjordman's love of Jews is not being reciprocated. Over at GoV (the Oslo thread) a poster called Findalis who was born in Queens, NYC and is a fanatical Zionist has praised today's killings in Norway. Some of her comments:
I hope they get more and more of these attacks. It is the price of becoming a Muslim nation. Arab Spring happening in Norway.
Norway outlawed the Kosher killing of meat a long time ago, thus leaving Jews with few options. It is a known fact that Jews are not particularly welcome, that the Norwegian government is openly hostile to Israel and Jews, that they are going to ban Israeli products due to the so-called occupation and the lie of genocide by the Arabs.
G-d works in mysterious ways. Turn on G-d's chosen people and G-d will turn on you.
An angry Fjordman responds: Findalis: Go to hell! I have supported others fighting against terrorism for years and will not accept others gloating when my people are murdered
To which Findalis replies: Gloating when the roosters come home to roost? If this doesn't wake up the people of Norway, they deserve their fate.
Later on she says: Return to G-d's law, and stop persecuting G-d's people, and He will bless the land.
And finally: When Muslims slaughtered a family in Israel (nearly decapitating a 3 month old baby) I heard Norwegians not only saying it was OK for them to do it, but they hoped more Jews would be slaughtered.
Now the shoe is on the other foot. Norwegians are feeling the horror and sorrow of what Israelis have felt since they signed the Oslo Accords.
The chickens have come home to roost in vengeance.
Be grateful that Jews don't pass around sweets and candies when Norwegians are slaughtered.
That good old Jewish charm!
Between this and the EDL fallout Fjordman should be getting a clearer picture of the people he is convinced are allies of the West.
I can’t believe it! According to this blog (in Swedish) the guy that perpetrated today’s attacks at Norway claimed some time ago that he is none other that our poor old friend Fjordman! Google translation:
Quote:
The police arrested this afternoon 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik as a suspect for both attacks.
Anders Behring Breivik, according to own data, previously driven the blog Fjordman and later for many years been a writer for the anti-Muslim and Zionist bloggers Gates of Vienna and Jihad Watch, under the pseudonym Fjordman.
/end quote
I am afraid that now Fj will have to reveal his real name…
Anders Behring Breivik, the suspected perp of the massacre at Norway, quoted Fjordman in 2009:
Quote:
Read Fjordman's work "Defeating Eurabia". This is as the perfect Christmas gift for family and friends.
/end quote
Source (translation by Google): http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/
Still another Google translation, and he seems to call Fj thus: “Fjordman / Hårstad”
Quote:
Do not know quite where to take it up but our own Fjordman is about to be cut to 3 position among the most recognized / influential European intellectuals anti-Jihad/anti-multikulti/anti-Marxist / bloggers.
After Gates of Vienna (No. 1) and New English Review (2). Ovverraskende NOK [sic] Fjordman is actually possible to turn himself Brussels Journal!
In other words. Those who have not yet read Fjordman's book, "Defeating Eurabia" has not been followed by an hour. I know it's hard to be prophet in his own country but this is beyond all expectations. Congratulations Fjordman:)
/end quote
Finally, if that site does indeed collect, as Google translates, “Anders Behring Breivik's comments… This is a complete list of comments Anders Behring Breivik has left at Document.n”, it means that the suspected perpetrator at least once addressed Fjordman in that forum.
Quote:
Fjordman,
I have worked full time in more than three years of a solution-oriented work (lecture notes written in English). I have taken a view to contributing in areas that are on the side of what has been the main focus. Much of the info I'm sitting on is unknown to most, even for you.
If you send me an email at year2083@gmail.com I will send an electronic version when I'm finished.
Norway has for me been absolutely no interest until now. The main focus should be on an intellectual platform consolidation of European cultural conservative organizations / individuals. This alliance should have as its main focus to de-legitimize multiculturalism (cultural Marxism) as the "European ideology of hate" it actually is. Its purpose (or indirect result) is known to completely destroy western civilization, nation-states, Western culture / norms / traditions, Christianity - European / Norwegian identity.
If this rough work is completed there is the basis for a Marxist superstate (EUSSR) without the necessary cultural conservative / nationalist components that could be stopped from Islam to dominate this new entity.
/end quote
If genuine, oh gosh: how unexpectedly bizarre!
Matra, thanks for capturing the Findalis/Fjordman exchange. GoV has deleted it.
Unamused:
"Nowhere have I promoted Jewish interests."
. . .
"It's not "the pro-White side," because I'm on that side; it's the "anti-Jewish" side."
. . .
"My main argument against anti-Semites is: you haven't made any effort to prove your case, except perhaps to shout "Kevin MacDonald" and "here are four or five bad Jews" and "asking for evidence? Typical Jew!" If they're trying to convince me, as they claim, then that is pretty stupid behavior."
You have made it clear that your jewishness is of considerable significance to you. Your concern for and bias in favor of jews and jewish interests is evident in the dismissive attitude you express toward "stupid" "jew conspiracy theories" as well as your characterization of Whites who criticize jewish hostility toward Whites as "stupid" "anti-jewish"/"anti-semites".
It isn't asking for evidence that is typically jewish. It's your pretense that any quantity or quality of evidence of jewish hostility toward Whites would cause you to sympathize with Whites rather than jews. You are pro-"white" to the extent you see jews and Whites as the same, except that you also afford jews and even half-jews like yourself a special status as jews. You take for granted that White anti-jewish hostility exists and is bad, but you are not convinced that jewish anti-White hostility even exists, much less that it's bad. In fact, you plainly regard that idea as "stupid".
Clearly you're on the jewish side, not the White side. But please don't let my recognition of this discourage you from providing more evidence.
'- Brett Stevens (Amerika.org, Stevens is Jewish) '
evidence/?
'- Brett Stevens (Amerika.org, Stevens is Jewish) '
evidence/?
I might have been wrong about that. I can't find an example of "Brett Stevens" admitting that he's Jewish, although as nearly as I can tell he's never denied it either. In any case, he's the most explicitly pro-Jewish of any of the people I listed.
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