When Circular Firing Squads Attack
The complaints Yeager and Martin have about each other don't interest me, but I would like to answer Martin's references to me.
@17:50:
My wife is not an injun, sorry to disappoint you Carolyn. I would ask you however to have you to post a picture of your partner over at the White network, Tanstaafl, and if you like I can reveal his name and his jewess wife, and let's just see how much Ashkenazim blood runs over there. We wanna get into your tagline "Whites talking about Whites about White interests", let's really get into this. This all could have been resolved if you had just sent me an email...
I don't see what I or my wife have to do with this, and neither did Martin until he decided he didn't like what Carolyn was saying. He lashes out at me out of spite, not based on any principle he wouldn't have continued to overlook if he had gotten the right email.
If I wanted my name or face revealed I would reveal them myself. What I have disclosed about myself personally, including my wife's background, I have done in order not to speak under false pretenses.
@20:30:
Talking about hypocrisy, you don't attack people using a fake name, you don't have a person running your network and talking about White issues who's married to a jewess and using a fake name, who's terrified about being contacted by anyone in the movement...
My fake name and wife are really beside the point. The point is that I help keep Carolyn online, and since Martin has decided he doesn't like what she's saying, I have to go.
I'm a technician and analyst. I have no ambition to be a public spokesman for Whites, much less a leader. Even though I don't make myself easy to contact, I have met several people, including one or more who have probably met Martin.
@30:45:
Can you imagine if I were to open my email right now and read every email that people sent me regarding Carolyn Yeager? I can tell you people would be shocked. If I were to read the emails telling me about her co-host Tan? I'm not gonna do that today, I won't do that unless I have to. He's disclosed that he's married to a jewess. One of the criticisms we've had/heard was that during the Thanksgiving week, which was also Hannukah, they didn't have any programs. Were they taking Hannukah off, because of the face-to-face relationship there? I don't know.
If Martin thinks he knows something other Whites should know, he should disclose it. Holding it out as a threat, to be disclosed only "if he has to", signals vendetta, not principle.
I took two weeks off after making podcasts for 75 weeks straight. During most of that break I was on the road with my family. We're not jews. We don't celebrate jewish holidays. My wife's father was a jew. He died when she was a little girl. If you want to condemn me, let it be for what I've done, not some trumped up bullshit out of your imagination.
Labels: carolyn yeager, rodney martin, tWn
posted by Tanstaafl at 12/15/2013 01:33:00 AM
28 Comments:
If her father was Jewish, then racially she is half-Jewish, regardless of whether she identifies as one, would you not agree?
Martin claims that the newspaper lied, is that possible?
Now don't get me wrong. I love me some Carolyn long time. But... does she typically get in a lot of fights?
A good response Tan. Martin is an angry vicious man. His remarks about you were uncalled for.
I won't quibble over how to describe my wife's race. Half-jew is the term used in the Nuremberg laws. The more "liberal" (less racialist) jews today use the term freely. The more "orthodox" (more racialist) jews insist publicly there is no such thing, one is either a jew or not, but in private they use the term "mamzer" (bastard) and exclude them.
From a White political perspective I think jew or half-jew is a distinction without much difference, and exclusion should extend even to their White spouse. Based on what I've understand about race and the jews, and for what that's worth given my own situation, I advise DNA testing and a one-drop rule.
I'm conflicted on whether this implies I should exclude or silence myself where and when Whites have no political power yet.
I liked your response, Tanstaafl, and for someone who doesn't identify with the white movement, you certainly made your points well-understood almost sa if you were that one. Threats are not principles, indeed.
May Rodney Martin heed them.
Well, I guess I am just a bit of a hot-head, but I think "hot-Rod" Martin and Greg Johnson ought to grease up and jump in a cage where they can fight it out over who gets to say your name just one more time ;)
Sleazebags, the lot of them.
Big Chief Whompum Martin say:
Your blog is a teepee for me to go pee-pee!
My blog is a wigwam for me to beat my tom-tom!
Pneumatikon said...
Now don't get me wrong. I love me some Carolyn long time. But... does she typically get in a lot of fights?
Yes, Pneumatikon, I do seem to get into fights. I do have a "speak up now - to find out if I'm right or wrong" approach. It's not a conscious strategy, I don't think, but just the way I 'want' to do it. I think it's because I don't want to be talked out of it, or talked into a compromise by going through some mediation. I usually see the person in a weak position and I'm holding something against him already. Like with Mark Weber, I find it impossible to understand how anyone can think well of him. So I'm not going to sit down and have a chat with him and let him "win me over."
Anyway, throughout my life, my tendency is to express myself bluntly, in a way that upsets people. So you are right. But much more now, on the Internet.
BTW, here's an example of what "orthodox" jews really think about matrilineality.
'Gentile sperm leads to barbaric offspring':
Rabbi Dov Lior, a senior authority on Jewish law in the Religious Zionism movement, asserted recently that a Jewish woman should never get pregnant using sperm donated by a non-Jewish man – even if it is the last option available.
According to Lior, a baby born through such an insemination will have the "negative genetic traits that characterize non-Jews." Instead, he advised sterile couples to adopt.
http://www.examiner.com/article/rabbis-to-get-out-of-jail-free-card-israel
Rabbi Dov Lior - good choice.
regarding Martin hostility? doesnt even warrant your reply.
I know you've invested a lot into this skull-measurement 1800's anthropology, but let's face it we still don't have foolproof science to identify the Jew
Let's face it, even jews recognize that jews can be identified via DNA.
Russian-speakers who want to make aliya could need DNA test | The Times of Israel
Tan,
I'm surprised you still can't see their MO and how they operate.
This article claims they're interested in administering DNA tests to confirm Jewishness. That's just the above-board rationale they use.
This is probably nothing more than a cataloguing operation. They want to collate all this material for some DNA mining operation.
Don't you see all these worlds like "...could need DNA test"
Besides, this was for the free Birthright indoctrination vacation. It doesn't prove anything one way or another. Would the Ethiopian, Moroccan, Iranian, or Yemeni Jew display the same 'markers' as the Ashkenazi Jew?
Don't you think there are millions of former Jews who assimilated into European nations and completely forgotten their identity?
Do you think these people are racial or psychological time bombs?
If so, then Europe is hopeless irredeemable as there are countless sleeper cells around.
Doesn't this look like a picture out of Iraq?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/child-abuse-allegations-are-lies-taliban-style-hasidic-sect-insists/
Tan,
The 12 tribes of Israel initially started out as a patrilineal tribal hierarchy, at least as far as they're concerned.
Allegedly, it was some Sephardi priests who settled among and converted Khazars and they are traced through paternal lines to this day.
Have you ever given any consideration to why they are matrilineal today?
In my previous post, I posited that it was just a survival mechanism. It was just a loophole-type way of guaranteeing that the child is indoctrinated into Judaism. Apparently, in a paranoid (or enslaved) mindset, you can never really guarantee the father but you always know who the mother is.
See how opportunistic and "write as you go" this faith is?
What makes you think they won't convert masses of non-Jews and take them in if it's a major win for them?
Looking at this as a purely racial phenomenon will have you chasing your own tail.
Have you ever given any consideration to why they are matrilineal today?
In my previous post, I posited that it was just a survival mechanism.
Search for "smokescreen" above for my thoughts on it. It is indeed a survival mechanism.
What makes you think they won't convert masses of non-Jews and take them in if it's a major win for them?
Because they're obsessed about "jewish peoplehood" and "jewish continuity". They care about their survival as a people. As a general rule the mixed are shunned and shed, and end up amongst the goyim, making arguments like yours.
The blood or the DNA hasn't remained cohesive, the ideology and psychology has. At any given time there are various factions that are ascendant/descendant. Sure, the inbreeding eventually leaves identifiable traces given enough time but the DNA is something they are trying to use to create cohesion. You are witnessing the creation of a narrative in real-time.
How can a people who change from patrilineal to matrilineal as a survival mechanism be considered cohesive?
Do you realize the implications of that?
The blood or the DNA hasn't remained cohesive, the ideology and psychology has.
Give it up already. Their DNA is cohesive enough to detect. The next step in the special pleading for them is to argue that they shouldn't be screened out because [insert some bogus reason here]. Frankly, I'm not interested to hear it.
I'm not white or Jewish. I have no interest in who/what you administer tests to for the purpose of screening. I just thought I'd point a few things out to help out but you seem so determined to pursue this racial Holy Grail that you're willing to throw out what doesn't help the thesis.
Is it any surprise why a few of the whites are flailing in the dark while the majority hold them in such awe that they're already defeated?
One thing you're not understanding is they take these studies when they've already controlled for Y-DNA and mtDNA. Jews don't even share that very tightly. They are everything from J, R1, E1b1b.
Oh, and please explain the patrilineal to matrilineal shift while you're at it and how that keeps genetics cohesive.
I'm not white
I believe this.
or Jewish
I don't believe this. You're far too willing to argue in favor of the jews.
I'm not arguing for them. I'm saying their mindset is contagious. If you go down that road and accept that religion or that mindset you will definitely fall into the same pathology.
You are saying there is a complete genetic immunity from that pathology. I believe the majority of the people who are Jews are more susceptible, whether secularly or religiously.
If you don't want to believe there is a spiritual plane involved then you'll always be at a loss for explanation. If a divine curse manifests itself in a DNA test we can observe, then perhaps....but we're nowhere near there yet.
http://quran.com/4/150-170
You are saying there is a complete genetic immunity from that pathology.
You are grasping at straws.
quran.com
Goodbye.
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Truly a Chosen among the Chosen.
Reason #17,852 why ''anti-semitism'' is on the rise.
Never mind. I'm new to the movement. I should have know the Jews would work overtime to infiltrate you. Keep on keeping' on, Carolyn!
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-might-is-right-power-half-hour-the-holohoax-legendreligion/
Never mind. New to this movement. Didn't know how serious the problem was with Jewish infiltration and psi ops, although that doesn't surprise me. Keep on keeping on, Carolyn!
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-might-is-right-power-half-hour-the-holohoax-legendreligion/
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I don't follow Martin, could care less about the details of this infighting. But what I do know is that Yeager has a nasty character with typical Jewish behavior. No, I am not calling her an ethnic Jew, that is irrelevant. She passes the duck test. If it swims like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck.
Yeager pulls the vagina card in a heartbeat and is the perfect example of a hardcore feminist, which of course is completely Jewish. I could care less how much she knows about Hitler and the Third Reich, when one starts using shaming language and telling men how to behave according to feminist doctrine, that person has become the enemy.
John Friend just exposed her big time, but it wasn't news to me.
You're a pretty good writer with some good insights and analysis Tan. Running with Yeager doesn't make you better, but worse. How you got hooked up with her I don't know, but as things progress on this front, regular house cleanings are always in order.
Tan,
I understand (approximately) your position as follows (please correct me if necessary).
You are not monocausalist (Chechar's term), but you may be described as Jew-focusist (my term). That is, you have understood Jews to be one of the most important causes (if not the only) of White decline, and your work (presently) focuses on understanding and exposing their workings.
Since you have (partly if not fully) understood how Jews operate, you can easily detect even a minuscule tendency to excuse the Jews.
You have identified how such excusing is potentially a camel-in-the-tent situation where what-is-best-for-the-Jews finally overwhelms any movement which refuses to be extremely vigilant and cautious.
Your focus is not on excusing the Whites. Your focus is on protecting the Whites from the tendency to blame the Whites in order to excuse the Jews.
Aservant said:
"John Friend just exposed her big time, but it wasn't news to me."
John Friend did not expose me, I exposed him and he retaliated. If anybody is a friend of Jews it's your friend, JF.
Aservant is a "hard core" bible-quoting Christian who believes women should be controlled by men (very Islamic and Judaic btw)and calls any woman who is not so controlled, a "feminist." He divides the world into men and women more than into Aryans and Jews.
I'm surprised to find him commenting at Tan's blog; I'm sure he has never done so before. He sniffed out a single comment about me here, so here he is. His is a pure "divide and conquer" comment.
Merry Christmas Tan and Carolyn. Your honesty and tenacity are refreshing and give one hope that the truth will eventually win out.
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