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Thursday, June 20, 2013

John Derbyshire and The Suicide Thing

Mangan's Importing problems links John "the jew thing" Derbyshire's Radio Derb Transcript, highlighting this rhetorical question:

Why on earth are we planning to import more such problems for ourselves?

It neatly captures Derbyshire's muddled "conservative" view. He asserts "we" are doing this to "ourselves", but can't explain why. Earlier in the podcast he notes:

There is an expression in statecraft that I think we got from Cardinal Richelieu. At any rate, it's always stated in French: raison d'État, "reason of state."

The idea is that those charged with running a country have the overriding duty to see that the country goes on existing, even if this means doing things contrary to the country's stated principles or religion. You get a similar flavor from the American maxim that "the Constitution is not a suicide pact." Statesmen should never, never be in the business of aiding and abetting national suicide.

How does raison d'État figure into suicide? It doesn't. The word for statesmen aiding and abetting the destruction of a nation is genocide. If democracy is the idea that George Soros has the same political power as Joe Sixpack, then the suicide meme is the idea that George Soros and Joe Sixpack are both trying to kill themselves. Both ideas are ridiculous, but you'd never know it from the sober, serious respect they get from intellectuals.

Derbyshire knows well enough that any White who opposes any aspect of the open borders regime, for whatever reason whatsoever, is pathologized as "racist". Those who demonstrate any actual awareness of race are demonized as "nazi". In either case such opposition is censured and marginalized. Dehumanized. Demoralized. Misled. Overpowered. It flows from the top down.

By chance I just recently re-read Derbyshire's Be Nice, or We’ll Crush You, published by jewcy.com in 2007. It is part of a longer series in which Derbyshire tries to demonstrate, to a jewish audience, how well he understands the jews. His purpose, apparently, being to convince them that his attitudes about race do not make him any threat to jews. A large part of his posturing consisted of him sneering at and trying to distinguish himself from Kevin MacDonald:

Generally speaking—and I certainly include myself here—American conservatism is proud of its Jews, and glad to have them on board. Not that there aren’t some frictions, particularly on mass immigration, the mere contemplation of which just seems to make Jews swoon with ecstasy (American Jews, at any rate. Israeli Jews have a different opinion…). MacDonald gives over a whole chapter of The Culture of Critique to the Jewish-American passion for mass immigration.

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review conveys the gist of the chapter Derbyshire refers to.

So why on earth would someone who knows what Derbyshire knows forget it and pretend "we" are doing this to "ourselves"? Based on Derbyshire's own rationale, as he lays out in that jewcy.com article, it seems his primary concern is to maintain his status (such as it is) within a regime which he implicitly recognizes is dominated by jews and jewish interests.

Derbyshire's coy use of "we" is self-implicating. He is part of the problem he complains so disingenuously about. He conflates the genocidal "we" who have power (with whom he identifies from the margins) with the broader "we" who have no power (and less knowledge than he does), both downplaying the crime and distributing responsibility for it.

It is no accident that the suicide meme finds purchase mainly in the "conservative" race-aware/jew-friendly millieu with whom Derbyshire remains somewhat popular. It cannot take hold in the anti-White mainstream where it is regarded as unthinkably "racist" to worry about what's good or bad for Whites. Likewise, it flops in forums and minds where jews are recognized as adversaries rather than allies.

Earlier this week Moonbattery, a long-running blog that falls somewhere within the race-aware/jew-friendly sphere, posted Conan Audience Applauds Its Own Extinction, invoking Derbyshire but contemplating a less suicidal view:

It isn’t your imagination. Liberals really do want to eradicate the white race. John Derbyshire (who was canned from National Review by establishmentarian thought cop Rich Lowry for failing to toe the liberal line on racial issues) found confirmation by watching the knee-jerk libs comprising the audience of Conan O’Brien’s show.

See CONAN Monologue 06/13/13.

The audience no doubt consisted primarily of reasonably well-to-do white people.

Consider for just a moment the implications of a people so deranged in its dominate ideology that it would cheer its own eradication. But then, how else would you explain the policies imposed by the liberal ruling class except as a methodical program to completely wipe us out by destroying our traditions, our mode of government (limited, constitutional), our culture, our pride, our freedom, our morals, our faith, and even our biological kind?

What progressives are progressing toward is this: a world in which America and Americans no longer exist. They are the enemy at a far more profound level than even the Nazis or the imperial Japanese.

Contra Derbyshire, there is no delusion here that "we" are doing this to "ourselves". There is explicit recognition that "the white race" is targeted. Still, there are several flaws.

The ruling class is as much or more pro-jew as it is anti-White. That ruling class applauds the eradication of Whites, not jews. They don't pathologize or demonize jewish traditions, culture, pride, freedom, morals or faith, much less their biological kind.

Why?

The ruling class is "liberal" only in the sense that it is disproportionately jewish and their discourse, across the board, is pain-stakingly sensitive to "minority" (a proxy for jewish) sensibilities. To participate in the ruling class you must support the existence of jews as a people, separate and more equal than any other, everywhere in the world. You may not support the existence of Whites for any purpose other than as metaphorical whipping boys.

"Nazis" are the metric of immorality for this regime exactly because the rulers are jews.

Where some Whites begin to see the significance of race, many still wish to ignore the significance of the racial animus jews have for Whites. It is in these minds that the suicide meme finds fertile ground.

"Something bad is happening, but it's not the jews, it can't be the jews, my friends (especially the jews) will crucify me if I catch The Jew Thing. Therefore, it can only be us, we must be doing this to ourselves."

This line of thinking has a solipsistic and masochistic appeal. But it's just another White guilt-trip. Reassuring because it is both simple and self-fulfilling.

Identifying the problem, for the White race, as suicide, insanity or "liberals" is a form of denial. The problem, for the White race, is the genocidal, judaized ruling class - which is only so genocidally anti-White because it is so thoroughly judaized.

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Blogger FlippityFloppity said...

Self-flagellation in the wake of their original sin of anti-semitism and racism. One wonders why they are reminded over and over again at every turn.

Perpetual penance allows perpetual victimology.

6/20/2013 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Excellent post.

Personally, whenever I hear the word "Nazi" invoked today, I reach for my gun.

6/20/2013 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Contra Chechar et al, "we" are only suicidal in as much as "we" refuse to acknowledge the deleterious presence of Jews in every facet of our formerly sovereign nations.

Those of "us" who refuse to acknowledge this presence, those who are determined to blame us, the victims, for our plight, those are the ones of "us" who must distribute the guilt. And for those of "us" will come the day of the rope, at our hands.

There's plenty of such of "us" in Mangan's threads and other alt-right blogs, and elsewhere in society in general. For them "If I shall whet my sword as the lightning, and my hand take hold on judgment: I will render vengeance to my enemies, and repay them that hate me."



6/20/2013 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A large part of his posturing consisted of him sneering at and trying to distinguish himself from Kevin MacDonald."

Bygones are bygones. We K-Mac fans are a magnanimous lot and we will continue to put food on the Derbyshire table via contributions to VDARE, scraped out of our meager middle class savings. A White brother is, after all, a White brother.

"Generally speaking—and I certainly include myself here—American conservatism is proud of its Jews, and glad to have them on board."

Right up until the pampered plutocrats of the neocon warmonger cabal cut off your source of income in the midst of cancer treatment, eh? There is, after all, something infinitely less holy and unique about gentile life.

6/20/2013 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

I posted a link to this article in the comments at Moonbattery, which are open. It was quickly deleted.

The article itself is an expansion of a comment on Mangan's which never made it past moderation, though I'm glad to see Titus Didius Tacitus has been permitted to take Rick Darby to task.

Concerning Darby, consider a comment he made at Auster's:

Rick Darby writes:

I was raised in New York City and spent seven years in Berkeley, and must partially take issue with Alexis Zarkov.

He is right about Berkeley (I lived there in the '60s, and then it was exactly as he describes, and I expect equally so now). And only because it is relevant to this subject, I will mention that my mother is Russian Jewish, her father was a Menshevik, and I was surrounded in my youth not only by Jewish relatives but also by Jewish schoolmates and teachers.


At Mangan's Darby writes, "I don't see the basis for your assumption that Moldbug's thesis is misdirected and the reality is, if I understand you, down to the Jews."

Moldbug's background is similar to Darby's. Mystery solved.

6/20/2013 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

My comment is back (or was never deleted) at Moonbattery.

6/20/2013 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Jesus wept:

American Jews’ tragic flaw, in my view, is a near-complete blind spot about toxic left-wing politics. They continue to act as though they are a persecuted minority, a pogrom about to fall on them any minute, and that their best defense is to turn the country into an ethnic patchwork of “majority minorities.” So much intelligence, so little political wisdom.

Oh, yes, tut tut, such a tragic flaw.

Tragic not for them though. That tragedy is reserved for us, which is so tragic, such a tragic flaw, tut tut. "Oh well, look over there, happy society, let's see if we can go fuck that one up too!"

Faaaaark Me.

Darby, hey, Rick. Darby. The Englishman.

6/20/2013 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous katana said...

>John Derbyshire and The Suicide Thing

>Mangan's Importing problems links John "the jew thing" Derbyshire's Radio Derb Transcript, highlighting this rhetorical question:

Why on earth are we planning to import more such problems for ourselves?
It neatly captures Derbyshire's muddled "conservative" view. He asserts "we" are doing this to "ourselves", but can't explain why.
------------------------

My guess is that Derbyshire well knows the score about jews but has decided that making a living, through writing, is more important than telling the plain truth.

If that is the case then his muddled writings on crucial issues like immigration is knowingly traitorous. People get bought out, succumbing to the carrot, all a while knowing there's a big stick in the shadows.

Calling them out is necessary, though.

6/21/2013 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Phalluster said...

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6/21/2013 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Armor said...

"Moldbug's background is similar to Darby's. Mystery solved."

When I read this, at first I thought the implication was that Derbyshire wrote comments under the screen name of Darby! In fact, the mystery solved is why people like Moldbug and Darby want to excuse the Jews. That is because they are part-Jews. But we are left to guess at Derbyshire's motivations. Maybe his calculation is that he does more good, criticizing race replacement, than he does harm, denying the Jewish responsibility.

"Identifying the problem, for the White race, as suicide, insanity or "liberals" is a form of denial. The problem, for the White race, is the genocidal, judaized ruling class - which is only so genocidally anti-White because it is so thoroughly judaized."

"judaized ruling class" is ambiguous. It can mean several things :
- there are too many Jews among our rulers
- our White rulers have been bought/co-opted by the Jews
- they are toeing the Jewish line out of fear or conformism
- they have come under damaging Jewish influence
- they have actually espoused the Jewish view of the world
- ...

Jewish pressure encourages White people to see fellow human beings as pieces of meat, while rejecting the ideas of tribe, tradition and transcendence. But only Jews can have a Jewish point of view. A White man can be anti-White, but not for the same reasons as Jews are anti-White.

Identifying the problem as "liberals" is better than putting it down to suicidal inclinations. In France, there has been a tradition, for people who refuse to name the Jews, to blame free-masonry. Even when I still didn't know it was the Jews, I had already come to the conclusion that the problem, at least in France, came from a kind of self-perpetuating clique managing the country like a mafia with phony philosophical pretensions. Even if it wasn't the Jews, today's race replacement ideology would still not be suicide, since it is forced on the population by an ideological minority.

Before the 1789 French revolution and the triumph of the Jews, the French "State" was already being presented as a sacred entity, when in fact, it was run by a bunch of thieves. But they didn't try to destroy the local population. After 1850 and the end of the monarchic restoration, I think the fight against tribe, tradition and transcendence mainly came from the French government and administration, not from French society. It was a centralized offensive. In the United States, the Jewish infiltration started later than in France, but the race replacement drive is similarly centralized. It comes from the government, the media, and the universities, not from the population. This is true whether or not the Jews are the main culprits (which they are).

6/21/2013 03:51:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Darby pushing suicide in another thread:

Western society is committing suicide because it has lost touch with human values. Everything that people used to understand about quality of life is now subservient -- if not completely irrelevant -- to the corporate/government axis.

Darby obscures the who and the why with such vague gibberish. He made it clear enough in the previous thread that he won't call it genocide because he fears that line of thinking comes "down to the jews".

6/21/2013 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous fnn said...

Incredibly, it looks like the list of intellectual taboos may be not be as comprehensive in Germany as it is in the US:

http://www.german-views.de/2011/12/05/martin-lichtmesz-on-germanys-colonization/
Martin Lichtmesz, one of Germany’s best political essayists (whose essays I haven’t translated until now, as his German is so brilliant that you would have to be Shakespeare to translate it in adequate English), has published a new book: “Die Verteidigung des Eigenen”, dealing with the ideology behind Germany’s self-destruction.

I want to give at least a short quotation from it:

"Of course, the German was, since 1945, something like the Negro of Europe, who had to be weaned from his barbarism, to incorporate him into the community of civilized nations, a task which the carriers of the ”burden of liberalism” had borne heroically, as was (and is) their job. We thank them today in Washington and Moscow for the fact that they have slain the dragon, who we once were ourselves. But the forcibly (by Versailles and Dresden) democratized Germans cannot be trusted, for you never know whether, under the cosmopolitan mask, there is still the old black jungle negroe, now simply called a Nazi, who - like once the just seemingly romanized Arminius – is just waiting for the opportunity to pull out his ax again. This provides the practical pretext to keep the nose ring always at hand. The historical consciousness of the Germans is deliberately grouped around their Negro past. The intention is not so much to make them cease to be Negroes and never return to their negroness, but rather to remind them that, due to their latent negroness, they need permanent educational supervision."


6/21/2013 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous fnn said...

Another one by the same author:

http://www.german-views.de/2011/08/29/hostility-towards-germans-part-ii-german-self-hatred-and-leftist-ideology/#more-98
German Adoption of the Western anti German Narrative

As the result of the powerful effect of various venues of American propaganda following World War II, a cataclysmic shift took place in German political thinking. It was a shift in the direction of the Anglo Saxon ideology of revolutionary liberalism and later Marxism. In both cases it consisted of the acceptance of the basic assumptions of the revolutionary Meta-Ideology.

Among other things, this created a “We – You” differentiation based on ideology rather than ethnicity or national political basis. The new norm was accepted as a matter of course, until “We” were no longer Germans or even the Europeans. “We” became a party in the global ideological civil war (“The West,” “Western Community of Values,” or “The Free World”). “We” became whoever shared revolutionary Utopian ideals.

Following the demise of the Soviet Union ever larger portions of the Left have come over to this “We,” as is quite obvious from the comet like careers of former “‘68ers”.

For the victorious powers, this new definition of the We-group, based on ideological allegiance meant a latent contradiction in their self-identity as nations. This was true not only for the Russians, who had fought more for Mother Russia than Communism (but whose victory served Communism more than Russia); it was also true for Americans and Britons. It was not easy to equate “My Country Right or Wrong” with the latest scheme to “make the world safe for Democracy.” As we have seen, these contradictions were just latent for the wartime Allies since they had fought as nations rather than as standard bearers for abstract ideas.

Among us Germans the contradictions were more than latent. They could not be ignored the instant we adopted the narratives and Utopian ideologies of our victorious enemies, as we did after the Second World War. A national “We Group” is a supragenerational community that includes past generations as well as those yet to come. The logic that compels a German Chancellor to participte in Allied victory celebrations in Paris, Normandy and Moscow implies that both world wars were battles in European and global civil wars.

They were gigantic struggles won by “The Western Community of Values” or simply “Democracy” (in Russia’s case, it was Utopian ideology as such) over the Forces of Darkness, and since “we” (re-educated, reconstructed Germans) belonged to this community of values, “we” were among the victors whereas “the Germans” (i.e. the strange people which called itself “the Germans”), the embodiment of all evil, were the losers.

The German adoption of Western Ideology and of Meta-Ideology in general implies a loss of identification with our own VOLK. It compels us to consider our own VOLK as the enemy, to abhor ourselves as an outgrowth of evil and to hate our own forbears. Germany is the only country in the world that erects monuments to traitors and deserters, the only country in which it is considered exemplary to spit on the grave of one’s grandparents. The historical narrative of the victors – with its global political concepts, its highflown Utopian worldview – can never be the narrative of Germans who want to be German. If they adopt it, it will be at the cost of self-obliteration. The contradiction between being German and being part of a historical subject called “Western community of values” is unbridgeable.


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6/21/2013 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Funny thing: if you attack Darby personally for his ideas your comment won't get up at certain blogs, but Darby, on the other hand, can dissimulate about the causes of our demise till the cows come home.

Politeness counts my friends; it's all in your manners.

Personally attacking someone for damning you and yours to hell is just not on, but courteous sonorous tones calling for your acceptance of a fate you didn't ask for is just aok, nay, it is the sine qua non of some blogs in the alt-right.

Ah, reactionaries. Don't ya just love 'em! They're so...so...high-brow.

6/21/2013 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Axe Head said...

Every time these days you lift a rock you find a Jew.

6/21/2013 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous JMR said...

If you read Nesta Webster you know that the jews were behind the French revolution http://www.orthodoxchristianbooks.com/articles/336/-jews,-masons-french-revolution/
Jews and Freemasons are interdependent.
Attempts to dissimulate and deflect the responsibility for the revolution to the French are like the economic blogs that have posts stating that the Nazis are behind the current economic crisis!

6/22/2013 04:13:00 AM  
Blogger FlippityFloppity said...

"The German adoption of Western Ideology and of Meta-Ideology in general implies a loss of identification with our own VOLK. It compels us to consider our own VOLK as the enemy, to abhor ourselves as an outgrowth of evil and to hate our own forbears. Germany is the only country in the world that erects monuments to traitors and deserters, the only country in which it is considered exemplary to spit on the grave of one’s grandparents. The historical narrative of the victors – with its global political concepts, its highflown Utopian worldview – can never be the narrative of Germans who want to be German. If they adopt it, it will be at the cost of self-obliteration. The contradiction between being German and being part of a historical subject called “Western community of values” is unbridgeable."

Clearly this guy has done zero research on contemporary America. Where the statues of our heroes and graves of our grandparents are being torn up and spit on with historical revision.

"In France, there has been a tradition, for people who refuse to name the Jews, to blame free-masonry"

So maybe we should just refer to "jews" as "Americans". The rest of the world does and the genocide meme may then be universally embraced.

6/22/2013 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous SMERSH said...

Imagine that all the Jews beamed back up to the mothership and flew away to their home planet, never to be heard from again.

Would today's deranged white liberals suddenly abandon their quest for white genocide?

Nope.

The white self genocide meme is *NOT* like a vampire infestation. If you kill the head vampire, all the other vampires get better (in some versions of the story). That's not going to happen in this story.

The white self genocide meme is more like a virus. When a virus is injected into a host, it takes over (pwns) some of the host's cells and uses them to produce more copies of the virus. The process can continue long after the first generation of the virus has been wiped out.

The initial infection came from Jews, but today it is spread by both Jews and deranged white liberals. In order to stop the progress of the disease, both have to be defeated.

People are more receptive to (verbal) attacks on liberals than they are to attacks on Jews. If you verbally attack a liberal Jewish politician based on his liberalism, many people will listen. But if you (verbally) attack him based on his Jewishness, few people will listen with an open mind. They'll tend to close their ears and refuse to listen to anything you have to say in the future.

Websites such as this do a service by naming the Jew. But only a small cadre of elites are receptive to such a message. The masses are more receptive to a message that verbally attacks liberals and neo-cons.

So I guess I don't have a huge problem with people who take the easy road and focus their (verbal) attacks on liberals and neo-cons, in order to reach a wider audience.

6/22/2013 09:11:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Derbyshire on Conan, The Joy Of Ethnomasochism. He's selling masochism.

When they heard him say that, the studio audience broke out in cheers and applause.

If you listen to CONAN Monologue 06/13/13 you can hear that when they heard him say that, it was only one or two who-knows-what whooping and only developed into an uneasy sprinkle of laughs and claps. It wasn't until Conan turned it into a I'm-not-a-racist joke that the audience laughed heartily.

Of course, the audience is there to laugh. By exaggerating the enthusiasm from the bottom Derbyshire obscures the driving force from above.

6/22/2013 09:38:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Imagine that all the Jews beamed back up to the mothership and flew away to their home planet, never to be heard from again.

Would today's deranged white liberals suddenly abandon their quest for white genocide?

Nope.


What makes Whites "deranged", "liberal" and motivates them to quest for genocide?

Are you arguing that if "deranged white liberals" flew away the jews would "abandon their quest for White genocide"?

6/22/2013 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Notice the flippant responses from the conservative commenters in moonbattery post. I've noticed that is how conservatives always respond, with a joke about how they hope their kids will get affirmative action. Surely something as dangerous as whites becoming a minority deserves a more realistic and serious response.

6/22/2013 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

People are more receptive to (verbal) attacks on liberals than they are to attacks on Jews. If you verbally attack a liberal Jewish politician based on his liberalism, many people will listen. But if you (verbally) attack him based on his Jewishness, few people will listen with an open mind. They'll tend to close their ears and refuse to listen to anything you have to say in the future.

The fact that most people, including yourself, are comfortable making sweeping generalizations about "liberals" and Whites, but not identifying jews as jews, is part of the problem.

I'm interested in describing things as clearly as I can. I don't think the main reason people dissemble about the jews is so that more people will listen to them. I think it has more to do with fear - either fear of the jews (ala Derbyshire), or fear for the jews (ala Darby).

6/22/2013 11:52:00 AM  
Anonymous SMERSH said...

"What makes Whites "deranged", "liberal" and motivates them to quest for genocide?"

Virulent, maladptive memes that have taken root in American culture. We can perhaps trace the origins of these memes back to the Jews, but at this point white liberals are perfectly capable of sustaining and spreading these memes on their own.

"Are you arguing that if "deranged white liberals" flew away the jews would "abandon their quest for White genocide"?"

No, I'm arguing that both groups need to be defeated.

"The fact that most people, including yourself, are comfortable making sweeping generalizations about "liberals" and Whites, but not identifying jews as jews, is part of the problem."

That's true. But I'm not sure what the best way to deal with that is. The fact remains that I can engage in extreme (verbal) attacks on liberals all day and my hardcore conservative audience will eat it up. But if I mention the Jewish factor I will alienate even my closest relatives. That's not hyperbole either.

So the natural reaction is to go after targets like liberals and neo-cons where you can make some headway.

"I'm interested in describing things as clearly as I can. I don't think the main reason people dissemble about the jews is so that more people will listen to them. I think it has more to do with fear - either fear of the jews (ala Derbyshire), or fear for the jews (ala Darby)."

Calling it "fear of the Jews" isn't quite right. It is fear of violating the taboo against naming the Jew. If Derb names the Jew, actual Jews won't need to get their hands dirty crushing him. Numberless hordes of deranged gentiles will line up for the privilege of crushing him.

6/22/2013 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Armor said...

Smersh: "Imagine that all the Jews beamed back up to the mothership and flew away to their home planet, never to be heard from again. Would today's deranged white liberals suddenly abandon their quest for white genocide?"

Most people disapprove of race-replacement. That policy is forced on Western countries by a small minority. So, what we have is a dictatorship problem. Ten years ago, I might have said that crazy white liberals were behind that dictatorship. I had no other explanation at my disposal at the time. Today, I find the idea ludicrous. Actually, the dictatorship is run by Jews. They dominate the media, as well as Western governments. There is proof of that all over the place. They do not even rely on the liberals as their main allies. I think they rely on the conformism and légitimisme of White people at the top of society. (I didn't find legitimism in my English dictionary, but in French, the word means unconditional support for the powers that be).

We live in a soft dictatorship, but it isn't all that different from a hard dictatorship. Kim Il-sung does not owe his power to the support of a minority of Korean citizens who favor military dictatorship over other forms of government. I think he has direct control over the military establishment, the administration chiefs, and the TV station presidents. Similarly, our Jewish rulers do not owe their power to the support of a minority of deranged white liberals. They own the media and a large part of the politicians.

If the Jews left the planet, the media and the politicians would no longer be under their control. It wouldn't be difficult for the majority of White people to stand up to the very small minority who thinks we need more immigrants. Most White people who used to support immigration would no longer do so anyway.

Race-replacement has never been a goal of White liberals, it is a goal of Jewish activists. Actually, liberals don't have goals at all, they simply have political postures. And they would rather ignore the consequences of their political postures. What matters to them is having the right posture at the right moment. Most of them don't seem to realize that the proportion of White people is going down fast. It is not something they want. From their point of view, it would be perfect if the immigrants suddenly exploded or vanished into thin air after one year in the West. It would make it easier to continue supporting more immigration.

6/22/2013 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Armor said...

Here is an excerpt of a blog article by Kevin MacDonald explaining why some White people support their own race-replacement. Actually, their goal is not race-replacement in itself :

* * *
So in summary, there appear to be three basic mechanisms tending to make White displacement psychologically palatable to Whites:

• self-interest resulting in competition among Whites to engage in ever more ridiculous displays of self-abasement and love of diversity and multiculturalism; such displays benefit individuals because of the very elaborate infrastructure that rewards such behavior;

• social learning facilitated by the prestige associated with dominating the intellectual high ground of the society, thus giving Whites the comfort of having the same attitudes as elite institutions like the New York Times and FoxNews, and informing others that one is intelligent and well-read;

• feelings of moral rectitude resulting from subscribing to the moral dictates of the society as defined by media and academic elites. Since these elites unanimously regard the traditional people and culture of the West as uniquely immoral, dissenting from these views results in shame and guilt, whereas going with the flow results in very positive feelings that one is a member in good standing of the mainstream society.

All of these processes discussed here depend on elite control. Without elite control, there is no infrastructure that makes displays of guilt and abasement profitable. Social learning only becomes a weapon against Whites after the forces opposed to Whites control the elite media and the academic world ;
* * *

6/22/2013 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Armor said...

Smersh: "People are more receptive to (verbal) attacks on liberals than they are to attacks on Jews."

Not true. Besides, normal people already know that leftism is a problem. What they don't know is that Jewish activists control the media and the political process.

Smersh: "If you verbally attack a liberal Jewish politician based on his liberalism, many people will listen. But if you (verbally) attack him based on his Jewishness"

It's Jews who are attacking White people, not the reverse. Jewish activists are not liberals, they are anti-White. The problem with them is not exactly their "Jewishness", but their anti-White activism. It isn't who they are, but what they do.

"Websites such as this do a service by naming the Jew. But only a small cadre of elites are receptive to such a message. The masses are more receptive to …"

The key to the race-replacement crisis is the Jews. So, it isn't helpful to talk about something else that you think the masses will be more receptive to. Here is a story for you: A policeman sees a drunk man searching for something under a streetlight and asks what the drunk has lost. He says he lost his keys and they both look under the streetlight together. After a few minutes the policeman asks if he is sure he lost them here, and the drunk replies, no, that he lost them in the park. The policeman asks why he is searching here, and the drunk replies, "this is where the light is."

It would be of great help if "the masses" learned about the Jewish problem, and it may happen in the near future. But it is even more important that intellectuals and professionals learn about it.

6/22/2013 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SMERSH said...
"Imagine that all the Jews beamed back up to the mothership and flew away to their home planet, never to be heard from again.

Would today's deranged white liberals suddenly abandon their quest for white genocide?

Nope."

I take your point that there is a large chunk of the population who have been sheltered from the reality of diversity and who support the anti-white regime however i think that would break down very rapidly if Jews weren't involved.

Take media censorship.

Jews are engaged in tribal warfare with no moral code but genuine White liberals are trying to do the right thing hence they have a moral balance in their head. Given the reality I don't believe White liberals on the ground would be able to hold the line on media censorship without Jews controlling the critical nodes. White sociopaths could - but they'd want to be paid.

Take the biggest example - the huge amount of rape and gang-rape in gang dominated (aka NAM) neighborhoods and when i say huge i mean huge. Although the vast majority of victims are White when a neighborhood is first being cleansed the gangs don't go away after all the White people have been cleared out. There's still a huge amount of rape and gang-rape but the victims are black or brown - and young girls getting gang-raped still takes moral precedence over the PC definition of racism even among hardcore White liberals.

Jews are perfectly fine covering it up but i don't think (genuine) White liberals could do it - not for long anyway.

So I think if Jews disappeared but the media was still dominated by White liberals it would only take a few weeks for the cracks in media censorship to start.

6/23/2013 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous KON said...

I heard the Derb has a micro.

6/24/2013 12:20:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

A bit about Derbyshire at the tail end of the White network - The Nature of Jewish Power – Part 2. More in Part 3, next week.

6/25/2013 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger who+dares+wings said...

I just read a review in the TLS (Times Literary Supplement) by Patrick Worsnip of a book entitled The Jewish Movement in the Soviet Union by Yaacov Ro'i published by Woodrow Wilson Center Press/John Hopkins University Press that..."All in all, some 250,000 Soviet jews-about a tenth of the surviving post-war population- managed to leave before the floodgates opened toward the end of Gorbachev's rule. Far from all of them, of course went to israel. The number going to the United States and other destinations reached nearly 90 percent in l988 before Washington, under Israeli pressure, clamped down on immigration by Soviet jews, oblidging them to go to israel Instead." I take this to mean that when "the floodgates opened" after Gorbechev it was easier for the remaining Jews to leave Russia and they all headed here. G-d help us!

6/25/2013 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

In other news Victims may have consented: Rabbi

"A senior Australian rabbi who failed to stop an alleged paedophile from sexually abusing boys at a Sydney Jewish school said some of the victims may have consented to sexual relations and has warned that involving police now would ''open a can of worms''."

This is what Former senior Sydney Rabbi Boruch Dov Lesches, "now one of New York's leading ultra-Orthodox figures." says about White children:

"When you think about the goyims, they are doing it from the age of five."

On justifying sexual abuse of teenagers:

"We're speaking about teenagers, boys and girls...it's not like in your family or other families who have plenty of money, there's nothing else to do in life. Only thinking twenty four hours about sex. And they did everything which they wanted willingly, one with another one, in the family, out of the family, boys and girls, girls and boys, people, dogs, you have no idea what people did. Alright? They thought it was fun, and they are going for it, and that's about it."

Scale of Jewish consideration:

Goyims are up for anything since at least the age of five.

Jewish teenagers without money are up for it, don't worry about them, they'd be having sex with dogs any way.

Whatever happens, never, NEVER, tell the goyims.

Bonus points:

Fairfax Media can also reveal that the family of the man being investigated by NSW Police over the sexual incidents at the Bondi Yeshiva are big financial supporters of the New York Monsey ultra-orthodox community led by Rabbi Lesches.

The alleged abuser was also appointed to the board of an Australian company involved in providing educational materials for Jewish students, years after his abuse of boys.

The alleged abuser has in recent years been sheltered by a leading Los Angeles Jewish welfare group, with 2011 emails between the man and one of the organisation's senior members showing he was in danger of having his past in Sydney exposed.

''I have no idea how anyone found out - but calls are coming daily from many sources. So far, we've been protecting you,'' wrote an executive director at the LA organisation in an email to the man.

6/25/2013 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger FlippityFloppity said...

The jew wall of silence. Oy vey, they want to treat us like we were Catholics.

6/27/2013 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Check out this Jew:

http://www.frequency.com/video/how-not-to-defend-atheism/104288185/-/5-59812

6/27/2013 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Phalluster said...

Pat, that is the funniest thing I have ever seen. I've replaced my wallpaper with a screenshot of that misfit. He is the quintessential liberal arts student of our time.

6/28/2013 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

Don't underestimate him, Phall.

He is the quintessential kike.

Red hair to blonde, even looks like my brother.

6/29/2013 04:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't underestimate him, Phall.

He is the quintessential kike.

Red hair to blonde, even looks like my brother.


He looks like Andrew Breitbart with his curly strawberry blonde hair. Breitbart was ethnically Irish but adopted by Jews and raised Jewish.

6/29/2013 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous JMR said...

A recent comment that I read on an economics blog was that Milton Friedman was (presumably behaved like )a Nazi! This same blog zerohedge has recently censored all unflattering references to jews but apparently Nazis are still fair game.

6/30/2013 04:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Phalluster said...

He is the quintessential kike.

That much is implied, though.

This kike's mania and shamelessness impede his personal effectiveness at persuasion, like a college student lecturing you what's for. His views are everything in line with the academic ivory tower. So: wholly representative of our contemporary college product.

A quintessential kike would be more sneaky about it.

6/30/2013 09:37:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Tolerance (the Berkeley-Popper Mix)

"tolerance" = quintessential jewing with or without mask

6/30/2013 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Armor said...

JMR (6/22/2013): "If you read Nesta Webster you know that the jews were behind the French revolution"

The Jews became influential mainly after the French Revolution, so I'm not sure if they had a big hand in it. In the link you provided, Vladimir Moss writes about the connection between the French revolutionaries and the illuminati, which was a secret organization founded by Adam Weihaupt in Bavaria in 1776. Then Moss writes: "What was this occult power that controlled even the Illuminati? Many writers think that it was the Talmudists, the rabbinic leaders of the Jewish people." But he doesn't say there is any certainty.

Nesta Webster's "The French Revolution" can be downloaded here. I looked up the word JEW in that book and only found a half dozen occurrences. She mentions repeatedly the Jewish agitator "Ephraïm", who was sent to Paris by the King of Prussia. I don't think she saw the Jews as crucial to the French Revolution. I only read the ten page epilogue. Maybe she said more about Jewish responsibilities in her later books.

What she says is that French people didn't want a revolution. They never caught the suicide thing or the revolutionary bug. And she doesn't think the 1789 revolution was caused by French madness.

What caused the revolution, according to her, was "a combination of conspiracies". She quotes Eustache-Antoine Hua (1759-1836) a member of the French Assembly, who wrote in his memories that "it was not by the people that the Revolution was made in France". In his memories, Hua says that revolutions are achieved by force against the will of the people because boldness tends to carry the day, while the moderate majority remains passive. He writes: "Du moment où il a saisi le pouvoir, des milliers d'individus tremblent devant un homme qui en porte les insignes et qui n'a besoin même contre une armée, d'autre auxiliaire que le bourreau." (=From the moment when he seizes power, thousands of people are quaking before a man who wears its insignia, and needs no other assistant, even against an army, than the executioner.)

According to Webster, the leftist ideology doesn't come from nowhere. It doesn't magically appear in people's minds. For example, she mentions that the Bolshevik tirades against the bourgeoisie are copied almost verbatim from the diatribes of Robespierre. So, we have to study the history of ideas, and see what people, interests, and organizations are behind revolutions.

6/30/2013 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Armor said...

(continuing my comment about Nesta Webster)

Her book was published in 1919. On page 495, talking about the English leftists of the day, she writes : "it is probable that those of the extremists amongst the leaders who are of British birth and origin little realise whither they themselves are being led. It is on these supposed leaders, mainly middle-class men posing as representatives of labour, that the makers of world revolution have founded their hopes."

And she goes on to name a few of the foreign conspirators who are manipulating British extremists in 1919 :

"- Prussian exponents of democracy who entertain the secret hope of building up their shattered military machine once more on the ruins of civilisation,

- German merchants who see their chance to corner the markets of the world by paralysing industry in the countries of their rivals,

- Cosmopolitan Jewish financiers who hope by the overthrow of the existing order to place all capital beneath their own control.

- Anarchists from the east of Europe animated solely by a passion for destruction who have all adapted Weishaupt's scheme of world revolution to their own particular purpose."


Nesta Wesbster was right. We have to study the history of ideas and identify every conspiracy. For example, it is useful to read Kevin MacDonald about the Frankfurt School. Nesta Webster is presented by Jewkipedia as a crazy woman, but she was perfectly reasonable. What doesn't make sense is the Jewish claim, and Derbyshire's claim, that White people have spontaneously decided to commit suicide by race replacement.

By the way, Vincent Reynouard, the French revisionist, recently published a video in French where he surprisingly says that today's main problem is not Jewish anti-White activism. He seems to think that there is something wrong with today's White people.

6/30/2013 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read somewhere (on YouTube?) that the ranting loon in the video is set-up. Its to make atheists look bad. No idea if thats true.

Either way its all good. If he's for real the bad guys look bad and if its a set-up they have to distance from or qualify his ranting.

6/30/2013 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger Rusty Mason said...

Derbyshire is right up there for usefulness with Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Savage, et al.

7/01/2013 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it was suicide the media wouldn't have to lie.

7/01/2013 05:03:00 PM  

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