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Wednesday, September 30, 2009

The Outrageous Defense of Roman Polanski

When news of jewish director Roman Polanski's arrest broke two days ago I excerpted the following details from an early article, Festival says director Polanski in Swiss custody - Yahoo! News (* - see endnote):
A native of France who was taken to Poland by his parents, Polanski escaped Krakow's Jewish ghetto as a child and lived off the charity of strangers. His mother died at the Auschwitz Nazi death camp.
In 1977, he was accused of raping a teenager while photographing her during a modeling session. The girl said Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill at Jack Nicholson's house while the actor was away. She said that, despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her.

Polanski was allowed to plead guilty to one of six charges, unlawful sexual intercourse, and was sent to prison for 42 days of evaluation.

Lawyers agreed that would be his full sentence, but the judge tried to renege on the plea bargain. Aware the judge would sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation, Polanski fled to France.
Note that AP didn't provide the details of the crime whose consequences Polanski has been running from for 32 years until after they made it clear he is a jew, and a special class of jew at that.

Why do people react to Roman Polanski the way they do? The answer is clear to anyone who won't avert their eyes from the rise of jewish power over the past 65+ years, or to the series of symptoms that rise has produced. In much the same way a cross-section of rock tells a geologist something of history, the sordid, decades-long Roman Polanski saga tells us something of the "culture war" between Whites and jews. In this case the clash is between the Rule of Law and "what's good for jews". In fact it's worse. What's good for one criminal jew apparently outweighs the Rule of Law.

Polanski polarizes Whites and jews in much the same way OJ Simpson polarizes Whites and blacks. Whether or not Whites see him as a jewish OJ, jews do. Polanski's defenders don't hesitate to play up his jewishness, which despite their tales of woe is definitely not one of his liabilities. If anything it helps explain how he's been able to remain at large for so long. Don't expect any mainstream detractors to touch this aspect of the story. Who wants to tiptoe through that minefield? Most probably think there's no need, the scandalous nature of Polanski's crime will be enough to see justice done. Though for 32 years it hasn't, and from the bits I cite below it seems instead that powerful forces are doing their best to let him walk. Months after the spotlight has moved on the ambitious but naive lawmen in LA and Switzerland who pushed this will be quietly informed that their services are no longer required. That's not so much a prediction as it is an educated guess.

Let's begin with Lawrence Auster, a convert to Christianity of "jewish heritage" who styles himself a traditionalist conservative. He made his view on Polanski clear in America's vendetta against Roman Polanski, which I'm going to reproduce in full because he's pulled or altered posts in the past (the emphasis, here and below, is mine):
I was stunned to read in Monday's paper that Roman Polanski, 76 years old, was, with the connivance of U.S. authorities, tricked into being arrested in Switzerland for the 32 year old offense of raping a 13 year old girl, so that he could be returned to the U.S. for trial. Who ever heard of a crime--other than murder--being pursued over so many years? I thought all crimes--other than murder--have a statute of limitations.

This is appalling. What is America now--the Javert Nation?


Anne Applebaum writes about it in the Washington Post.

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Christopher C. writes:

Shocked at your post.

The best response I've seen so far is from the comment thread on that lawyer's gossip site, Above the Law, which just so happens to catch the ignorance, tone, and spirit of your post:

Comment # 20:

"The crime is pretty darn old--from 32 years ago. Isn't it time to give it a rest?"

Totally. It had only been 15 years when they caught Adolf Eichmann in Argentina--but 32 is a lot longer!

"His victim takes a fairly forgiving attitude towards Polanski."

Then she can forgo a civil lawsuit. (Also, lots of victims of domestic abuse "forgive" their abuser--so I guess we shouldn't prosecute those, either.)

"Polanski claims that 'there was no premeditation and that 'it was something that just happened.'"

I "just happened" to swipe a twenty-dollar bill off my co-worker's desk. So it's not theft!

"Doesn't the government have better things to do?"

Than enforce laws?

"Questions have been raised regarding the propriety of the original prosecution."

If only there were means in the legal system to challenge the propriety of the prosecution--aside from direct appeals, two additional layers of habeas challenges (state and federal), and requests for executive clemency or commutation.

But no, seriously, he should get to stay in France and eat wine and cheese and make movies.

LA replies:

The comment which you think is so spot on is filled with inanities. Someone who can't discuss the Polanski case without comparing Polanski to Adolf Eichmann is the very definition of an intellectual mediocrity. I'm shocked that you would consider this an apropos point.

In New York State until three years ago there was a five year statute of limitations on rape. Then it was removed.

In California as of 2007 and presumably still today has a 10 year statute of limitations on rape. How then can Polanski be pursued? I suppose it's because statute of limitations refers to the amount of time between the commission of the crime and the indictment. Polanski had already been arrested and charged and was in the middle of his trial when he fled, because he feared that a deal that had been made whereby he wouldn't serve jail time had been abrogated. So (I'm assuming) the statute of limitations is irrelevant here.

Still, 32 years have passed. He committed one offense. He's lived half his life in exile. He's 76 years old. To keep pursuing him like this is sick. I don't think that this pursuit is an expression of justice. I think it's an expression of the power of feminism.

Jonathan W. writes:

You are correct that the statute of limitations is inapplicable here. Since Polanski had already pled guilty, which is equivalent to a conviction, the statute of limitations doesn't apply. Also, in many jurisdictions (although I am unsure about California specifically), intentionally fleeing the jurisdiction tolls the statute until the fugitive returns to the jurisdiction where the crime was committed.

September 29

Charles T. writes:

I had to read the initial post twice. I could not believe you were posting this. This is the first very serious disagreement I have had with your postings. Polanski is the sick one here. I recently read the victim's very detailed story of what happened--I regret I cannot find it at this point. It is a gut wrenching tale of serious mistakes made by her parents and of Polanski's predatory behavior and actions towards her. The story makes clear this was not something that just happened--it plays out over several days time. This little girl was his prey.

No mercy for Polanski. He is a predator. Rape is an incredibly serious crime--and Polanski should pay for it.

LA replies:

I do not know the details of the crime, I've read a few stories in the last couple of days. I did read, I think in the NY Post, that there was an agreement in which Polanski understood he would not face jail time, but then the case was given to a different judge who would give jail time, and that was when Polanski fled the country. Now if there was an agreement that involved no jail time, the crime itself could not have been of the gravest nature, certainly not of a nature that he should still be pursued across the world 32 years later. My response to this is based purely on the amount of time that has elapsed. 32 years! Isn't there a point when you say, let it go?

Other than in cases of murder, and of Nazi crimes against humanity, I've never heard of a person being pursued and arrested for a crime 32 years later.

David B. writes:

There is a brief account of the Polanski case in a book I have titled, "The D.A." It is about the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, published in 1996.

After the grand jury indictment, the girl's mother decided she did not want her daughter subjected to a trial. She hired a politically influential attorney who talked to the district attorney. An offer was made to Polanski to plead guilty to statutory rape, with the heavier counts dismissed, and the sentence is "open," which means left to the judge to decide.

The prosecutor wanted to go to trial, but the "front office" negotiated a plea bargain. Polanski accepted the offer and plead guilty to felony statutory rape. On the day before sentencing, Polanski fled the country for France. He has not returned.

My view is that Polanski should be brought back for the case to be dealt with. I don't think Polanski will receive much, if any, prison time.

LA replies:

So the charge for which he's wanted to statutory rape. Do you pursue a man for 32 years across the ocean for statutory rape?
My attention is immediately drawn to Auster's hysterical tone. "America's vendetta", "stunned", "the connivance of U.S. authorities, tricked into being arrested", "appalling", "pursue a man for 32 years across the ocean". What justifies this strong reaction, in support of a criminal, especially when he is ignorant of the details of the crime? I daresay not traditionalism or Christianity.

As I've pointed out before, Auster is a dissimulator. Whatever else he pretends to care about he's first and foremost pro-jew. Most of the time he's strenuously defending America, because he thinks that's best for jews. Here he's on the attack, because somebody has to protect jewish rapists from being tricked by those conniving Americans.

Auster can be an incredible fruitloop, simultaneously fascinating and repugnant. As we're about to see, he links approvingly to Applebaum, who plays the Nazi card. Then he calls drawing a direct analogy to Adolf Eichmann "the very definition of an intellectual mediocrity". I've wasted more than enough of my life picking him apart. I'll cut it short here and simply follow two links from his post.

PostPartisan - The Outrageous Arrest of Roman Polanski, by Anne Applebaum, September 27, 2009:
Of all nations, why was it Switzerland -- the country that traditionally guarded the secret bank accounts of international criminals and corrupt dictators -- that finally decided to arrest Roman Polanski? There must be some deeper story here, because by any reckoning the decision was bizarre -- though not nearly as bizarre as the fact that a U.S. judge wants to keep pursuing this case after so many decades.

Here are some of the facts: Polanski's crime -- statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl -- was committed in 1977. The girl, now 45, has said more than once that she forgives him, that she can live with the memory, that she does not want him to be put back in court or in jail, and that a new trial will hurt her husband and children. There is evidence of judicial misconduct in the original trial. There is evidence that Polanski did not know her real age. Polanski, who panicked and fled the U.S. during that trial, has been pursued by this case for 30 years, during which time he has never returned to America, has never returned to the United Kingdom., has avoided many other countries, and has never been convicted of anything else. He did commit a crime, but he has paid for the crime in many, many ways: In notoriety, in lawyers' fees, in professional stigma. He could not return to Los Angeles to receive his recent Oscar. He cannot visit Hollywood to direct or cast a film.

He can be blamed, it is true, for his original, panicky decision to flee. But for this decision I see mitigating circumstances, not least an understandable fear of irrational punishment. Polanski's mother died in Auschwitz. His father survived Mauthausen. He himself survived the Krakow ghetto, and later emigrated from communist Poland. His pregnant wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered in 1969 by the followers of Charles Manson, though for a time Polanski himself was a suspect.

I am certain there are many who will harrumph that, following this arrest, justice was done at last. But Polanski is 76. To put him on trial or keep him in jail does not serve society in general or his victim in particular. Nor does it prove the doggedness and earnestness of the American legal system. If he weren't famous, I bet no one would bother with him at all.
If he weren't jewish, I bet so many jews wouldn't be displaying their intellectual mediocrity in his defense.

Applebaum's facts are carefully selected. Here in compact, distilled form she presents almost all of the arguments and hyperbole being offered in every other Polanski defense. It is a veritable masterpiece of bullshit. This must be one reason she was on The Atlantic 50 list of "columnists and bloggers and broadcast pundits who shape the national debates".

Unfortunately, most of what Applebaum writes is an appeal to emotions, not reason or the law. She doesn't even get some of her facts right. Consider the following link to Above the Law, mentioned by Christopher C above. Beside the portion Auster quoted, which pulls the pants on most of the Polanski defenses, we find this nugget in The Roman Polanski Prosecution: Keep On Keeping On, or Drop It Like It's Hot?:
Wow, I just read the GJ testimony of the victim: Disgusting. While he was raping her, he asked if she was on the pill. When she said no, he asked when she had last had her period. When she said a couple of weeks, he switched to sodomizing her so he could come in her ass.

And that stuff about not knowing she was a minor: BS. Shortly before the raping in earnest starts, he actually talks to the girls mother on the phone to reassure her that everything's all right but that they'll be home a little late.
The comments are more interesting than the post itself. It's been all but expunged from the mainstream media, and even on the internet it often takes cryptic forms, but the "culture war" rages on. Two more Above the Law comments offer more recurring defense themes:
Misallocation of scarce governmental resources. Statutory rape is not an enforcement priority.
I second the suggestion to see the film Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired...
(http://theenvelope.latimes.com/movies/filmfestivals/sundance2008/env-et-polanski17jan17,0,4818835.story)

If that documentary is to be believed, and I think it was very credible, the whole case was corrupt - particularly the scumbag judge - and Polanski fled because he was being railroaded and lied to and knew he couldn't get real justice - he was willing to plead guilty and take the punishment THE JUDGE AGREED TO - but the judge reneged and was posing and posturing to get celebrity attention and use Polanski's celebrity - I am not defending his actions but the man has had a LOT of terrible things in his life and has contributed a LOT to the world - and even the "victim" is done with his "crime"

Enough is enough. Let's all get a life and leave the man alone
Enough is enough. The judge (who's dead and can't defend himself) is a corrupt scumbag, Polanski a victim. Can't we all just get along? If it doesn't fit you must acquit. Let my people go.

Here's another one-sided jewish kitchen-sink defense, largely overlapping Auster and Applebaum - holocaust, Javert, Tate and Manson, victim forgives him, see Wanted and Desired, ... Roman Polanski still being hounded by L.A. County prosecutors | The Big Picture | Los Angeles Times, by Patrick Goldstein, September 27, 2009:
But at a time when California is shredding the safety net that protects the poor and the unemployed, not to mention the budget of the public school system, you'd hope that L.A. County prosecutors had better things to do than cause an international furor by hounding a film director for a 32-year-old sex crime, especially one that Polanski's victim wants to put behind her.
In the coming weeks, the Polanski affair will no doubt become a tabloid sensation, with op-ed moralists, excitable bloggers and the Glenn Becks of the world noisily weighing in on the propriety of his possible prosecution.
Glenn Beck? What does he have to do with...oh, there's the "culture war" again. "Glenn Becks" is oh-so-clever ew-jay ode-cay for uppity Whites. I'm mildly surprised that he kept himself from saying "rednecks" or "teabaggers".

Did you notice that where the title says "hounded" the URL (ie. the original title) says "stalked"? That's at least a small sign of restraint.

Here's another outrageous defense, Joan Z. Shore: Polanski's Arrest: Shame on the Swiss, concludes:
Now, three decades later, the long arm of Uncle Sam is grabbing this man and hauling him back to California, thanks to the complicity of the Swiss. There are surely more important issues in the world, and more villainous rogues at large that we should be attending to. Why does America always get sidetracked by sex and scandal?

I suggest, in the finest American tradition, we protest this absurd and deplorable act by smashing our cuckoo clocks, pawning our Swiss watches, and banning Swiss cheese and chocolate.
Is Shore jewish? She certainly argues like she is, appealing to the same mind-numbing nonsense, throwing in some shame and a boycott.

I'm wondering whether Applebaum, Goldstein, Shore, and other Polanski defenders have been sharing notes on JournoList? Or perhaps it's just that they've all seen that same movie Bill Wyman panned in Whitewashing Roman Polanski:
In "Wanted and Desired," Zenovich casts Polanski, whose face repeatedly fills the screen with a Byronic luminosity, as a tragic figure, a child survivor of the Holocaust haunted by the murder of his wife, the actress Sharon Tate, at the hands of the Manson family. His friends are uniformly supportive: "This is somebody who could not be a rapist!" one exclaims.
Polanski wannabes are up in arms, perceiving a clear and present danger to their libertine lifestyles. Top directors rally around Polanski - Yahoo! News, Mon Sep 28:
"We demand the immediate release of Roman Polanski," urged the petition, which was coordinated from France by the SACD, an organisation which represents performance and visual artists.
France's Society of Film Directors also voiced concern the arrest "could have disastrous consequences for freedom of expression across the world".

Polish film-makers called on their government to act and prevent a "judicial lynching".

Some 100 Swiss artists and intellectuals signed a petition demanding the release of Polanski, while papers in the country lamented that a "trap" had been laid there for the director.

The film industry's outrage was echoed by the international community with France and Poland criticising the arrest.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said he was working with his Polish counterpart Radek Sikorski to help Polanski and that they had jointly written to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to ask for the charges to be dropped.

"This affair is frankly a bit sinister. Here is a man of such talent, recognized worldwide, recognised especially in the country where he was arrested. This is not nice at all," Kouchner told France-Inter radio.

French Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand has called the arrest of the film-maker, who lives in Paris, "absolutely horrifying".
Look at this silly hyperbole. And all these powerful people, sworn to uphold the law, openly working to subvert it. Applebaum put it well enough, there is a deeper story here.

The list of petitioners: Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » Naming Names: The ‘Free Roman Polanski’ Petition.

Here's a bizarre piece that tries to paint the White/jewish culture war as an American/French or American/European conflict. Roman Polanski's Arrest: Why the French Are Outraged - TIME:
Although the cultural divide between Europe and the U.S. has narrowed over the years, the legal fate of director Roman Polanski shows there are still major differences. Polanski's arrest in Switzerland on Sept. 26 was greeted with satisfaction in the U.S., where authorities hope he will face sentencing for having sex with a 13-year-old girl in 1977. Europeans, meanwhile, are shocked and dismayed that an internationally acclaimed artist could be jailed for such an old offense.

"To see him thrown to the lions and put in prison because of ancient history — and as he was traveling to an event honoring him — is absolutely horrifying," French Culture Minister Frédéric Mitterrand said after Polanski was arrested upon arrival in Switzerland to attend the Zurich Film Festival, where he was to receive a lifetime achievement award. "There's an America we love and an America that scares us, and it's that latter America that has just shown us its face." In comments that appeared to be directed at Swiss and American authorities to free Polanski, Mitterrand added that both he and French President Nicolas Sarkozy hoped for a "rapid resolution to the situation which would allow Roman Polanski to rejoin his family as quickly as possible."
No doubt great pressure is being exerted behind the scenes that we're not hearing about.

If Polanski's 32 year old conviction is "ancient history", then why does his even more ancient Nazi-era history keep coming up? Oh. That's right. "Culture war".
The 76-year-old, who was born in France, has increasingly been seen as the victim of an obsessive U.S. justice system that is ready to pluck him up and drag him off to prison at any moment.
More "Wanted and Desired" fans.
"The French view Polanski as an artist and celebrity and feel he deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people, which just isn't an option in the U.S.," says Ted Stanger, an author and longtime resident of France who has written extensively on the differing public views and attitudes across the Atlantic. "The French in particular, and Europeans in general, don't understand why it isn't possible for American officials to intervene and say, 'Hey, it's been over 30 years and things look a little different now. Let's just forget this thing.' "
Things look a lot darker now.

I think we would have forgotten "this thing" if Polanski had appeared in court when he was supposed to. People accused, convicted, and imprisoned for possessing digital pictures of someone underage that they've never even met, and people in general, don't understand why Polanski deserves a different kind of treatment than ordinary people. I'm sure more than a few can be found in Europe.

I imagine John Demjanjuk must be thinking, "Hey, it's been over 65 years and things look a little different now. Let's just forget this thing." But I don't think he has any rich and famous friends. And let's face it, Demjanjuk is the opposite of a jew. That's why he's treated completely differently than Polanski.
"To the French mind, this has made Polanski a combination of Oscar Wilde and Alfred Dreyfus — the victim of systematic persecution," Stanger says. "To the American mind, he's proof that no one is above the law." That's a perception gap as wide as the Atlantic.
Inspired by Patrick Goldstein, I predict that in the coming weeks the perception gap will grow, and the anti-semitism card will be played more overtly and more often. Let's have a conversation contrasting Eichmann, and Demjanjuk, and Sheppard and Whittle with Polanski. Let's hear more about why Polanski deserves special treatment. Let's hear how anti-semitic it is to question this.

In the meantime, let me cite some hard facts Polanski's defenders consistently neglect to mention.

Here is the grand jury testimony, and here is Polanski's guilty plea.

Polanski Fights Extradition to U.S. From Switzerland (Update4) - Bloomberg.com, by Paul Verschuur, Antonio Ligi and Edvard Pettersson, September 29, 2009:
Prosecutors became aware of Polanski’s travel plans last week and through the U.S. Justice Department asked that he be arrested, Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley, said today in a phone interview.

Extraditing Polanski could take several months, Robison said. The request for Polanski’s arrest wasn’t related to his failed attempt this year to have the 1977 case thrown out, she said.

“It’s because he’s been a fugitive,” Robison said.
No Statute of Limitations for Polanski - The Early Show - CBS News, Sept. 28, 2009:
There is no statute of limitations governing the case of Roman Polanski who was arrested by Swiss police on Saturday on a 31-year-old arrest warrant.

CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom said that is because the director, now 76, had already pleaded guilty in 1978 to having had unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl. "He already has been convicted."
Polanski fled the U.S. as he awaiting sentencing, convinced the judge would renege on his plea bargain deal. A judicial review this year did find there was misconduct on the part of the judge (who is now dead), but the charges could not be set aside as long as Polanski was a fugitive.

Fearing renewed attention, Polanski's victim, [Samantha Geimer,] who accepted a cash settlement from him, has said she does not want the case reopened.
"This is a crime against the people of the State of California, as all crimes [there] are," she said. "And so a civil settlement does not end it. This is a man who fled on the eve of sentencing because he was concerned he was going to get a harsher sentence than he expected under the plea bargain. He's been a fugitive for 30 years. He still faces sentencing here in California. It's irrelevant legally that he has a civil settlement with the complaining witness."
Why would anyone who knows enough about the case to mention that the victim had forgiven Polanski not also mention that he had paid her? I'm guessing it's the same reason they'd describe Polanski as having been "stalked" or "hounded" or "pursued across the ocean" when he has never even taken the trouble to hide.

Here's a critique of "The Global Committee to Defend Roman Polanski", Roman Polanski is Not a Victim - Swampland - TIME.com, by Amy Sullivan Monday, September 28, 2009. It concludes by responding to the Dreyfus comment highlighted above:
Except that Wilde was persecuted for being gay and Dreyfus was persecuted for being Jewish. In the western world, at least, it's no longer acceptable to target someone for his sexual orientation or his religious faith. In 2009, just as it was in 1977, however, it is still considered a bad thing to rape a child. And so it will be 30 years from now and 60 years from now. At least, I dearly hope so.
Except that this doesn't squarely face the reality here. This isn't about sex or religion. When Mr. Roman Catholic is accused of homosexual pederasty jews are just as eager to condemn as they are here to defend Mr. Roman Polanski. The reality is that a bunch of mostly self-righteous secular jews are upset that a fellow jew, who just happens to be a convicted criminal, has been arrested. They know anti-semitism when they smell it. They can't see why else a brilliant jew who drugs and anally rapes a 13-year old girl needs to be held to account. I sympathize with Sullivan. She very likely understands this, as well as the consequences of speaking frankly about it. A gentile can't write directly about the White/jew "culture war" and keep a mainstream media job.

Among the comments to Sullivan's brief article is this one:
Everyone outraged by Applebaum should simply email WaPo about her failure to disclose her conflict of interest. Her husband has worked to free Polanski of this charge.

spob September 28, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Sure enough, see Patterico’s Pontifications » WaPo Columnist Has Undisclosed Conflict of Interest on Roman Polanski Matter. Applebaum doesn't need to worry about her job. I don't think she'll even bother to come clean about the conflict of interest. Because what are "the anti-semites" going to do about it?

More signs of the "culture war": Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » HuffPo Goes All In to Defend Polanski, Readers Revolt and Wikipedia locks Polanski page after editing war - Yahoo! News.

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* - There is something strange about the AP-Yahoo article, Festival says director Polanski in Swiss custody - Yahoo! News, linked above. When I first read it the article was more or less identical to this one at Breitbart. Today however the same URL produces a heavily modified version whose tone is different and which has been retitled "Polanski's arrest could be his path to freedom". In the new version Polanski's ghetto history is introduced more subtly (as if to explain what a French minister said the day after the story broke) rather than just being baldly injected into the story as it was in the original (as visible in the Breitbart version). It was only upon writing this essay that I noticed the change and searched out the original. Besides the Breitbart version that search revealed another fishy Yahoo link: http://omg.yahoo.com/news/festival-says-director-polanski-in-swiss-custody/28577. This URL redirects to the new "path to freedom" story. For the moment this journalistic irregularity is still visible in google's cache. Note the timestamps on the cache and the "path to freedom" page.

Maybe this kind of change happens more often than I'm aware, but I've excerpted many web-based articles and have only noticed changes like this a few times. On its own I don't think it's a big deal, though it does make me wonder. What was so wrong with the original article that justified it being replaced/redirected?

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19 Comments:

Blogger danielj said...

I didn't read your whole post so I don't know if you had the same flash of insight I did but...

Don't you see the irony in the situation of a bunch of Jews talking about a crime being 32 years old so it should just be forgotten?

Maybe it is beyond irony and straying into chutzpah.

9/30/2009 02:29:00 AM  
Blogger Wheeler MacPherson said...

I had a thought similar to DanielJ's..."Why don't they stop tormenting poor Polanski and find an octagenarian former camp guard to go after?" Now THAT would be justice.

9/30/2009 04:21:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

I called for comparison between Demjanjuk, and Eichmann, and Sheppard and Whittle. Of course we should have a conversation about it, especially since the media won't.

I particularly like the precedent set by Eichmann's persecutors: no statute of limitations, and pursuit across the ocean, even for the most banal bureaucrats who participate in genocide.

9/30/2009 04:52:00 AM  
Blogger flippityflopitty said...

I guess Auster would suggest the likes of Wesley Snipes, OJ and Wil Smith being persecuted and stalked for 30 odd years for the same offence as an injustice.

9/30/2009 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Matra said...

One of the names on the petition calling for Polanski's release is writer Paul Auster. According to Wikipedia he's Lawrence Auster's cousin.

Leading the campaign in France is neocon Bernard Henry-Levy, a supporter of the communist Red Brigade terrorist group but not Palestinians who commit similar acts. Indeed Henry-Levy supported the Gaza slaughter carried out be Israel earlier this year.

Back in 2002 Polanski - who has visited Israel before - strongly objected to comparisons between Israelis and Nazis.

9/30/2009 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't the Talmud give Polanski permission to rape young girls as young as 9 yrs old? Or is it 3 yrs old?

woody

9/30/2009 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Eichmann in Jerusalem:

[Political theorist and author of Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil Hannah] Arendt states that aside from a desire for improving his career, Eichmann showed no trace of antisemitism or psychological damage. Her subtitle famously referred to the "banality of evil," and that phrase is used quite abruptly as the final words of the final chapter. In part, at least, the phrase refers to Eichmann's deportment at the trial, displaying neither guilt nor hatred, claiming he bore no responsibility because he was simply "doing his job" ("He did his duty...; he not only obeyed orders, he also obeyed the law." p. 135).

And despite this Eichmann was pursued across the ocean, 15 years after the fact, kidnapped, tried, and hung.

The Capture of Adolf Eichmann is far less charitable, but also mentions the broader activities of the nokmim:

A number of the top Nazis were captured after the war and tried at Nuremberg. Many escaped. Many, too, were sought out by members of the Jewish Brigade of the British Army. In addition to assisting in the illegal immigration of Jews to Palestine, they also organized themselves into a group dedicated to tracking down Nazis. They called themselves the "Nokmim" - the Avengers. They located and captured hundreds of SS men, especially those involved with the running of concentration camps.

At first they handed over the SS men to the Allied authorities, but many of the SS men "escaped in the chaos that followed the war or were released." At one point the Russians released two Nazi Germans who had been turned over to them by the Jews. The Germans walked out into the street, laughing at their release. But not for long. The Avengers "cut the men down with a burst of sub-machine gunfire."

From then on the Avengers simply tracked down and killed former Nazis. Perhaps 1000 Nazis were tracked down in this way after the war.


Hmm, I wonder why Tarantino filmed a fiction when he could have publicized and immortalized this true story of post-war jewish justice?

9/30/2009 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Here's what Gary Mokotoff, who is on the board of directors of the Federation of Genealogical Societies and Association of Professional Genealogists, has to say about rape.

Deseret News | Posthumous baptism is a terrible insult to Jews:

As I have told many of my Mormon friends, to many Jews — including myself — "baptize" is the second ugliest word in the English language. The ugliest word is "gassed." The third ugliest word is "raped."

To many Jews, "baptized" has a greater emotional reaction because to them — and me — to posthumously baptize a Jew is to rape his soul.


To many jews, anything that offends their exquisitely sensitive jewish sensibilities provides an excuse to hyperbolize hysterically.

9/30/2009 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Weston said...

Is Shore jewish?

Yes.

9/30/2009 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger Mansizedtarget.com said...

Polanski is the Leo Frank of our time. Leo Frank was a Jewish pervert factory boss who raped and murdered 12 year old Mary Phagan. He's been the subject of a rousing defense ever since; like Auster's penchant for diverting attention from Jews to blacks, the defense pointed the finger at his black janitor, who testified he helped Frank hide the body. Amazingly, the Frank trial--a trial with almost no anti-semitism to speak of but a great deal of anti-black racism by his defense--spawned the creation of the Anti-Defamation League and the corrupt issuance of a sentence commutation by the governor, who was a former law partner of Frank's lawyer. Frank was eventually hanged by an outraged lynch mob.

I think the news media's preocupation with the Catholic Church's gay pederasty scandals--a shameful failure by the Church in my opinion as a Catholic--is designed to blow it out of proportion and delegitimize the Church. Other institutions like public schools that also have adults who have abused kids over the same post-60s time frame are not highlighted for context. And the extreme perversion of Hollywood and its Jews--who dominate, for example, the pornography industry but who have also turned mainstream movies into pornography, i.e., American Beauty--is totally suppressed. This may be a bridge too far, however!

9/30/2009 09:44:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

The Polanski Double Standard - Bill Bennett - The Corner on National Review Online:

When scandals turned up in the Catholic church, the elites — as everyone — were rightly shocked. It was a major, several year story. And the abuses investigated, detailed, and condemned went back to 1950, 27 years earlier than Polanski's crime. Priests and parishes and archdioceses were punished and sued and even bankrupted. There is a major double standard here — not because that is what is wrong, but because what Polanski did was wrong and too many want to dismiss it and move on — because he's in the favored class of the elite.

. . .

You want to know why Michael Medved titled his book Hollywood v. America? It wasn't because of this case, but it might just as well be now. Who defends child rape? Well, now you know who.

Look at Bennett dance around Polanski's jewishness. I'm not so sure Medved has or will side with him.

10/01/2009 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous nader paul kucinich gravel said...

Single-Payer GRAYSON Single-Payer

...It would have been just too damn expensive to remove all that asbestos from the Twin Towers...

As the 9/12 Tea Party looks into the events of 9/11 they have many questions concerning the Official Story.
They know not to trust the Government & Media.
Only the guilty fear inquiry.

An ill wind comes arising
Across the cities of the plain
There's no swimming in the heavy water
No singing in the acid rain
Red alert
Red alert

10/01/2009 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous TOO reader said...

Thank you for an interesting post. This is how they are, how they've always been, will be until the host nation ejects them. And then everything starts anew.

In Soviet Union, Germany, Postville, ancient Persia, ancient Egypt, Palestine, Spain, Great Britain, ..., today's USA. Except for the amount of blood, there is no difference in principle.

This is of course why they have imposed multiculturalism on us, because they believe that if there is no "host nation" there will be no ejection.

Here, nation is understood in the traditional way, where nation pertains to birth/bloodline. (for some odd reason in US-english nation means state; compare instead with nativity etc.)

How bad the end of this Jew cycle will be, the Jews being armed with nuclear weaponry in addition to all the banks, I dear not think of.

Nevertheless, there has been some backlashes lately that indicates the beginning of the end of the current Jew cycle: the filthy organized media persecution of bishop Williamson, the Gaza massacre, Bernie Madoff, both Elie Wiesel and Simon Wisentahl proved to be tricksters, the bank chaos, the organ trade scandal, ... to name just a few outrageous things that has happened.

10/02/2009 01:59:00 AM  
Blogger Captainchaos said...

Tanstaafl, the way you mirror the opacity with which Jewish pundits advocate their ethnic interests is elegant. But it should be noted that your implicitly going to bat for Eichmann is a thread, if pulled upon, could unravel your opaque affectation in that it leads to a controversial chain of moral and epistemological reasoning I suspect you wish to avoid at this time.

10/02/2009 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger John said...

This is yet another egregious example of Jew hypocrisy and their "circle the wagons" mentality that has so many gentiles disgusted with them altogether. Playing the "anti-Semite" card is going the same way as the "race card"; it's not working anymore. Those playing the aforementioned cards need to remember the parable of the boy who cried "Wolf!" and where he ended up. Also, explain to me again why it's ok to be anti-Christian, anti-Hindu, anti-Moslem etc. but it's not ok to be anti-Jew.

10/03/2009 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suspect its not OK to be anti-jew because they will remind us thats an ethnicity, being anti-jew is therefore a species of racism.

Of course when it suits them they will argue that judaism is a religion not a race.

How do you argue with people who so blatently get to have their cake and eat it too?

10/10/2009 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Julius said...

"Of course when it suits them they will argue that judaism is a religion not a race.

"How do you argue with people who so blatently get to have their cake and eat it too?"

--

Good question anon!

I don't know from what blog I copied this quote from (was it yours, Tan?), but it perfectly captures the hypocrisy of Judonia and the chameleon-like quality of jewish supremacism -

"Regular readers of this blog will note that we dare to discuss the Jews from time to time, a subject which, in our PC-culture, is banned as racist when discussed by non-Jews, except if we wish to shower continuous praise on these Chosen Folks like goofy obsequious supplicants.

"The genetic origins of the Jews are deeply controversial, mostly because so many Jews are so sensitive, insane and weird about the subject. Jewish self-perception in this area is the usual bundle of ever-changing, neuroticized, politicized and tribalized Jewish contradictions and self-deceptions (we are a tribe, no, wait, we are a religion, no wait, we are a race)."


"...WE ARE A TRIBE, no wait, WE ARE A RELIGION, no wait, WE ARE A RACE..."

10/11/2009 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Julius said...

"I had a thought similar to DanielJ's..."Why don't they stop tormenting poor Polanski and find an octagenarian former camp guard to go after?" Now THAT would be justice."

And here he is -

"Nazi-Linked" Mich. Man: Don't Deport Me - CBS News

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/01/national/main5279373.shtml

10/11/2009 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Julius said...

Corrected link:

http://tinyurl.com/yfblvzf

Another Demjanjuk witch-hunt farce!

This time the poor guy is not even alleged to have done anything nearly as bad as they claim Demjanjuk did!!

Yet this same gang claims it is 'too late' to go after Communist war criminals and murderers.

What sickening hypocrisy!

10/11/2009 12:15:00 AM  

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