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Friday, March 20, 2009

The Wages of Tantrum

In The idiocy of Kevin MacDonald Auster takes offense at MacDonald's statement:
the racial Zionist movement that dominates the politics of Israel today
Auster is so angered by this that he attacks MacDonald personally. The problem, beyond this childish tantrum, is that MacDonald, in terms of Western norms, is entirely correct. Read for example Weston's analysis in The Israeli Election. Auster, who willfully ignores the disparity between what is considered "racism" in the West and normal in israel, can't help but list "well-known facts" that indicate only one thing: that racial zionism (Jabotinskyism) does not dominate israel as completely as he would like.

In throwing his tantrum Auster at least brings attention to some excellent writing of MacDonald's, including his recent post at VDare Memories Of Madison—My Life In The New Left, and his December 2008 TOO essay Ben Stein's Expelled: Was Darwinism a Necessary Condition for the Holocaust? where he provides some idea how far today's racial zionism goes beyond what is considered acceptable for today's White Westerners.

Auster here demonstrates two common tactics of pro-jewish argument: 1) throw nasty, personal insults at someone who says something you don't like, and 2) answer a complaint about some jewish disparity by claiming jews aren't powerful enough.

Tactic 2 is related to a tactic even more frequently used in similar circumstances: 3) answer a complaint about some jewish disparity by claiming that the complainer is insanely suggesting jewish power is absolute. In both cases examples are usually offered to demonstrate that jews aren't doing everything they could to further their own interests, or are doing something that harms themselves.

What these tactics seek to avoid is any acknowledgement that the disparity in question is real, and that that in itself is harm and injustice enough to those of us who aren't jews.

For other recent examples of these tactics see Melanie Phillips' Obama prepares to throw Israel to the Wolves, or the comments made by Anonymous to Whose Country is This Anyway?

What makes this phenomena especially annoying is that jews are, as a group, incredibly sensitive to disparities everywhere around them concerning the rights, wealth, and power of everyone, including themselves, at least when they feel victimized. However, when asked to face disparities that reflect negatively on themselves they abruptly become deaf, dumb, blind, and exhibit ZERO intellectual honesty. What's more, they treat anyone who presses a complaint against them as a mortal enemy. It seems to me a good example of projection.

At this point some philo-semite inevitably shows up to say, "yeah, but that's perfectly understandable because <insert sob story here>, and after all we're allies!" To which I say, no. The intellectually and morally bankrupt tactics described above are not only alien and inscrutable to White Western minds. They are indefensible. Two wrongs don't make a right. These tactics don't reflect the attitude of an ally. They reflect at best a self-aware and self-absorbed Other, and at worst a mortal enemy. In either case we are not obligated, intellectually or morally, to tolerate these tactics or the people using them.

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16 Comments:

Blogger danielj said...

Calling Kmac an idiot is just ludicrous. I'm not a fan of atheistic/evolutionary theories generally, but I tend to cut slack to and try to absorb the views of Mr. MacDonald since he is genteel, reserved and dignified in the presentation of his scholarly views which makes him guilty only of being the very antithesis of "idiocy."

However, I'm sure Auster will quibble if pushed and state that he meant Kmac was engaged in idiocy and not that he is an idiot.

3/20/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger Rusty Mason said...

I skipped over Auster's post on KMac because I thought I knew what he would say. I was right. I like your description of the tactics, it's helpful. Thanks.

3/20/2009 09:55:00 AM  
Blogger weston said...

Auster posts a trivial non-defense of his non-argument against MacDonald:

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012777.html

This is bad, even for Larry.

Auster goes off about how Arabs are allowed to vote (the horror!), how terrorists are being released, and how poorly planned the peace process has been. This allows him to completely dodge his correspondent's actual question, as well as dodging the fact that over 90% of the seats in the Knesset are occupied by politicians that believe that Israel is a Jewish state and should remain so. "Mark A." is right. The political parties in the United States are officially anti-white, while every Jewish party in Israel is officially pro-Jewish. There's no comparison.

I've got to believe that a few of Auster's white readers will see through Auster's transparent attempt at subterfuge here.

p.s. You're a fruitbat, apo. Take your meds.

3/20/2009 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

You beat me to it Weston. In Is Israel as anti-majority as the U.S.? Auster's commenter puts the question very well:

Does Israel have legalized racism and discrimination against Jewish citizens in favor of all non-Jews, in the same manner that the United States has legalized racism and discrimination against all white citizens in favor of all non-whites (including non-citizens) via affirmation action, busing, housing laws, etc?

It's no surprise Auster dodges this question. He only recently stopped pretending "liberalism" was about "non-discrimination" and started to recognize it as the anti-White discrimination his commenter does. He hasn't figured out yet how to explain, in a way that doesn't reflect badly on jews, why "liberalism" is explicitly anti-White and pro-jew.

3/20/2009 04:42:00 PM  
Blogger danielj said...

Additionally, it isn't like Israel wants to allow Arabs to vote. They have to do it since world opinion is decidedly aligned against them. They already have to have big brother U.S. veto every U.N. security council resolution for them so they can't go around creating an openly apartheid state which might really piss off the world.

Plus, these are media savvy Jews we are talking about, who understand how to manipulate the opinion of a gullible public.

I find it all ironic since Jews were just a noisy rabble of minority immigrants back in the days of the Palestine Mandate. They are just like Mexicans here in the U.S. in this respect and this fact doesn't bode well for us.

Does Larry think all that minority immigration to Palestine that upset the Palestinian traditionalist culture and cause was acceptable? Does he justify this horrible injustice somehow?

3/20/2009 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger danielj said...

I find it all ironic since Jews were just a noisy rabble of minority immigrants back in the days of the Palestine Mandate.

In fact, THEY WERE TERRORISTS! Horror of all horrors! They were trying to impose their Jew laws on the local residents! They were in fact, just like the Muslims Larry is sooooo scared of.

I'm laughing so hard I'm going to piss myself.

3/20/2009 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good observations, Tan. Similar intelligent views are at:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31097

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"The tactics of the Israel lobby plumb the depths of dishonor and indecency and include character assassination, selective misquotation, the willful distortion of the record, the fabrication of falsehoods and an utter disregard for the truth."

"A lobby," Steve Rosen confided in an AIPAC internal memo, "is like a night flower; it thrives in the dark and dies in the sun."

Yes, and long ago, Al Smith addressed the age-old problem of the Rosens within: "The best way to kill anything un-American is to drag it out into the open, because anything un-American cannot live in the sunlight."

Well done, Ambassador Freeman."
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Well done, Tan. FF

3/20/2009 08:23:00 PM  
Blogger danielj said...

Mr. Rosen, in a feat of devilish irony, lead the assault on Freeman despite being charged with espionage for Israel.

I say that pretty much makes Freeman's arguments QED.

3/21/2009 03:13:00 AM  
Blogger flippityflopitty said...

I noted the following idiocy:

"...today's Israel--that it is a country of soft-hearted liberals..."

Is he kidding? I guess he never bothered to investigate what life under Israeli occupation is like.

3/21/2009 10:07:00 PM  
Blogger weston said...

Mr. Rosen, in a feat of devilish irony, lead the assault on Freeman despite being charged with espionage for Israel.

Daniel,

That's very, very funny. It's really so absurd that it could have been the subject of Monty Python skit or something similar. An Israeli spy lecturing the American public about how there is no dual-loyalty issue amongst American Jews. Hilarious!

Is he kidding? I guess he never bothered to investigate what life under Israeli occupation is like.

Auster's problem is that he refuses to recognize that his notion of what is "liberal" is subjective, and very different from the views of those he criticizes. Israel is a "country of soft-hearted liberals" compared to Auster's vision of how policy in Israel should be conducted.

But for a non-Jewish outside observer like MacDonald, the frame of reference isn't the ideal Israel, it's the white western world. And Israel is far less liberal and far more ethno-nationalistic than is any majority white country.

Liberalism exists on a continuum. Israel may be a liberal country, but it's certainly on the right side of the liberal scale. And from where we're standing in the uber-liberal United States, it actually looks pretty darn non-liberal.

I have no qualms with Auster's defense of Israel or with the fact that he finds it too liberal, but it is ridiculously myopic that he cannot comprehend a view of Israel that does not find it so liberal. He's being blinded by his Jewishness IMO.

3/22/2009 12:03:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Reuters AlertNet - Soldier says rabbis pushed "religious war" in Gaza:

Rabbis in the Israeli army told battlefield troops in January's Gaza offensive they were fighting a "religious war" against gentiles, according to one army commander's account published on Friday.

"Their message was very clear: we are the Jewish people, we came to this land by a miracle, God brought us back to this land and now we need to fight to expel the gentiles who are interfering with our conquest of this holy land," he said.

3/22/2009 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Shalmaneser said...

""Their message was very clear: we are the Jewish people, we came to this land by a miracle, God brought us back to this land and now we need to fight to expel the gentiles who are interfering with our conquest of this holy land," he said."

My guess is that these righteous "holy warriors" are not so willing to fight gentiles without the military technology that White people develop for them. Their "holy war" means jack without us. Silly deluded loxes.

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By the way Tanstaafl, great blog and great denunciation of that worm Auster. The cause of the pro-Whites will not advance until everyone sees Jews (as a whole) as the primary cause of all the modern-day hell we see around us. Auster is trash to be jettisoned.

Being philosemitic and being pro-White are mutually exclusive conditions. Auster is not our friend, and worse than being no use to us, he is profoundly detrimental to our cause. Him and all the Joblingites. Cunts all!

Cheers.

3/22/2009 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In fact, THEY WERE TERRORISTS! Horror of all horrors! They were trying to impose their Jew laws on the local residents! They were in fact, just like the Muslims Larry is sooooo scared of.

In some cases, as terrorists, attacking the British - while the Brits were still fighting the Germans in WW2.

Gotta love that double standard.

3/23/2009 03:20:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Israel Expels African Asylum Invaders from Tel Aviv : The British National Party:

Some 3,000 African invaders posing as “asylum seekers” who have illegally entered Israel have been forced to leave Tel Aviv in terms of a ruling by the Israeli Ministry of the Interior.

. . .

According to the United Nations Refugee Agency (UNHCR), Israeli police in Tel Aviv arrested over 240 asylum seekers - mostly from Eritrea, Sudan and Côte d’Ivoire - in one day in February. This mass arrest took place one day after Prime Minister Ehud Olmert ordered security forces to step up measures to “prevent the infiltration of foreigners and deport those staying illegally.”

Nearly all of those arrested had some sort of documentation from the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) showing their cases were under review.

Those arrested were told by police they could wait for their interviews with the UN while in jail, according to lawyers from Israeli non-governmental groups trying to aid the asylum seekers.

During the weekly cabinet meeting on 24 February, President Olmert ordered the Israel Prisons Service to detain all infiltrators not classified as refugees, and instructed the Defence Ministry to tighten security at the Israeli-Egypt border.


Such are the actions of an israeli-style "suicidal liberal", and a lame duck to boot. The last time we saw anything like this in the US was in the 1950s, with Operation Wetback, which was before the genocidal anti-White liberals seized overt control.

3/23/2009 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger bongoparty5 said...

Kevin Macdonald addresses Auster's post in his latest from the Occidental Observer

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Madison.html

3/27/2009 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger bongoparty5 said...

" Even Lawrence Auster, whose role as a Jewish activist seems to be to advance the cause of Israel within what he calls the “traditionalist, politically incorrect Right” "


ha ha ha !

3/27/2009 07:16:00 PM  

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